Fantastic Four vs Twilight

Originally posted by the ninjak
You guys do realise that Reed has prep in this.

And the Werewolves would have told the military EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Close thread.

Guy captured the Fricken Silver Surfer.

Prep time against someone who can literally SEE everything you are going to do is worthless. What would he do in this prep time anyway? What possible invention could he bring with him that would help? Vampires are super fast and strong. You kill them by cutting them up and burnin 'em. Beyond that, their is really not much to exploit.

Carlisle calls in the Volturi for back up. 😛

Vampire AIDS bomb released into the atmosphere.
Bella watches and cries while Edward vomits up blood all over her pretty face.
Especially if Reed can contact Blade and get the virus from Blade 3 and weaponise it.
Shits gettin desperate now🙁

This thread is fail.

Yeah I hate it.

I'm not going to post a stupid smiley, because I don't want any twihards to lose their shit over my post on this thread...

Susan Storm could destroy all the Cullens alone.. and within 5 seconds..

first off, I'll state that Susans force fields have been known to shield her from the telepathic powers of jean grey and psilord. Both of which are about 500 times stronger than alice, jasper and edwards mind powers merged together.

secondly.. susan would hold an invisible shield around herself if she expected that kind of trouble... and since we've seen susan accomplish near impossible things using her force fields... I seriously doubt some punching vamps could take any of her shields down.

example: Ultimatum comics- New York was hit by a tsunami, manhattan was submerged... Susan used her powers to push the water back into the ocean... (all the water... ALL of manhattan)

no possible argument any of you could summerize could lead to the defeat of the FF..

if needed, reed could design a space laser.. to wipe forks off the map entirely...could do the same to the Valturi aswell....(dunno how to spell it)

my 2 cents...
and with that... comic book nerds everywhere win to twihards...

oh... and susans force discs....
sharper than a samurai sword... and forced through objects at 300 km's/ hour.

they can cut through steel!!! ^_^

bye bye granite!!!

God reading my previous posts in this thread....embarrassing.

Sue is the only chance this team gets in this fight. Her fields were strong enough to help keep up London's ferris wheel up but she had the teams help.
She contained a Supernova with much strain.

But the Cullens have a good chance at this.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition
I'm not going to post a stupid smiley, because I don't want any twihards to lose their shit over my post on this thread...

There is a smiley in your post subject line.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

Susan Storm could destroy all the Cullens alone.. and within 5 seconds..

first off, I'll state that Susans force fields have been known to shield her from the telepathic powers of jean grey and psilord. Both of which are about 500 times stronger than alice, jasper and edwards mind powers merged together.

Within 5 seconds? Amazing.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

first off, I'll state that Susans force fields have been known to shield her from the telepathic powers of jean grey and psilord. Both of which are about 500 times stronger than alice, jasper and edwards mind powers merged together.

First off, you will notice this is the "Movie Vs" forum - this means we are using ONLY the movie version of Sue Storm.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

Both of which are about 500 times stronger than alice, jasper and edwards mind powers merged together.

This is by far the most (and only) interesting thing you have said. I would love to see how you came to this conclusion that they are "about 500 times stronger".

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

secondly.. susan would hold an invisible shield around herself if she expected that kind of trouble... and since we've seen susan accomplish near impossible things using her force fields... I seriously doubt some punching vamps could take any of her shields down.

Near impossible things? What is considered near-impossible in a world of fiction. I would assume telepathy would be "near impossible" as well. I would like to know your criteria for fictional "near-impossibility".

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

example: Ultimatum comics- New York was hit by a tsunami, manhattan was submerged... Susan used her powers to push the water back into the ocean... (all the water... ALL of manhattan)

no possible argument any of you could summerize could lead to the defeat of the FF..

Well, except that all those arguments you made are for the comic version.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

if needed, reed could design a space laser.. to wipe forks off the map entirely...could do the same to the Valturi aswell....(dunno how to spell it)

Except, there is no prep given in this scenario.

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition

they can cut through steel!!! ^_^

bye bye granite!!!

There's your second stupid smiley face.

fire...fire wins nothing more needs to be said

Originally posted by Blonde_Ambition
I'm not going to post a stupid smiley, because I don't want any twihards to lose their shit over my post on this thread...

Susan Storm could destroy all the Cullens alone.. and within 5 seconds..

first off, I'll state that Susans force fields have been known to shield her from the telepathic powers of jean grey and psilord. Both of which are about 500 times stronger than alice, jasper and edwards mind powers merged together.

secondly.. susan would hold an invisible shield around herself if she expected that kind of trouble... and since we've seen susan accomplish near impossible things using her force fields... I seriously doubt some punching vamps could take any of her shields down.

example: Ultimatum comics- New York was hit by a tsunami, manhattan was submerged... Susan used her powers to push the water back into the ocean... (all the water... ALL of manhattan)

no possible argument any of you could summerize could lead to the defeat of the FF..

if needed, reed could design a space laser.. to wipe forks off the map entirely...could do the same to the Valturi aswell....(dunno how to spell it)

my 2 cents...
and with that... comic book nerds everywhere win to twihards...

oh... and susans force discs....
sharper than a samurai sword... and forced through objects at 300 km's/ hour.

they can cut through steel!!! ^_^

bye bye granite!!!

This is movie version Sue we're talking about. You'll notice that movie version is a lot weaker than her comic version. She has never shown the ability to shield against telepaths in the movies.

Originally posted by FrothByte
This is movie version Sue we're talking about. You'll notice that movie version is a lot weaker than her comic version. She has never shown the ability to shield against telepaths in the movies.

OMG!! blonde moment!!
sorry guys...
if we're using the movie version.. then the cullens would destroy the fantastic four...

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
fire...fire wins nothing more needs to be said

My thoughts also.

IIRC, fire only harms them if they are broken (some liquid flows out).

Originally posted by Placidity
IIRC, fire only harms them if they are broken (some liquid flows out).

what about when their bones are burned to dust? 😕

Blonde Ambition is right about one thing:

Comic book Sue would solo with ease.

Originally posted by Placidity
IIRC, fire only harms them if they are broken (some liquid flows out).

How about heat around 4000 Kelvin, did they show resistant to that as well, or have I missed something?

Originally posted by Utrigita
How about heat around 4000 Kelvin, did they show resistant to that as well, or have I missed something?

Johnny would refuse to use a Supernova in an open area.

Due to the fact that Reed told him such temperatures unenclosed could have disastrous results.

The Johnny in the movie universe doesn't have the experience that the comic version has.
Heck in the comic universe Johnny rarely used Supernova unless he knew there was no consequence.
Recently we've seen him use it over and over again in the Negative Zone whilst being a slave gladiator. He now knows the limits of his power now.

Movie Johnny doesn't want to destroy Forks.

Though he can keep to the air and zip around. This fight depends on the F4 keeping together with the knowledge the werewolves have supplied them on the Cullen's abilities and using that knowledge to their advantage.

The Cullens have Alice's precog. And Edwards telepathic advantage in battle.

The F4 obviously have a degree of prep due to the fact the wolves told them everything they know in order to kill the vamps.

The Thing is stronger than a Twivamp and we don't know if a vamps bite would even effect his rocky form.
We also don't know if the vamps can pierce Reed's elastic form. Heck he wrapped himself around London's Ferris Wheel and held on!

The OP states that the F4 members are ready whilst the Cullens come out to face their opponents. So no bullshit speedblitzing Sue before she hits the ground nonsense I've heard from people.

The problem with this fight is the F4 on film have only faced few opponents.-

-One was capable of defeating them one on one but not altogether.
-The others were godlike in ability.

The best we have to go off is them stopping the bridge and ferris wheel feats. Which the Cullens would've had no chance of stopping.
And the Cullens would've been unable to defeat Doom as well.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Johnny would refuse to use a Supernova in an open area.

Due to the fact that Reed told him such temperatures unenclosed could have disastrous results.

And why would he refuse to use it in this scenario? He is fighting the Collins nothing is said about taking care of the earth or it's inhabitants, there isn't a ton of civilians around, and Johnny went supernova when Reed told him too, he will do so again. He goes Supernova and Sue contains it, difference would be that this time it's the Collins trapped inside not Doom. We can also do it the other way around Sue contains them and Johnny goes Supernova. Even then based on the movie Johnny need around 3000 kelvin just to archive flight, that is imo still hot enough to burn any Twilight vampire that touches him or gets near him to crisp.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And why would he refuse to use it in this scenario? He is fighting the Collins nothing is said about taking care of the earth or it's inhabitants, there isn't a ton of civilians around, and Johnny went supernova when Reed told him too, he will do so again. He goes Supernova and Sue contains it, difference would be that this time it's the Collins trapped inside not Doom. We can also do it the other way around Sue contains them and Johnny goes Supernova. Even then based on the movie Johnny need around 3000 kelvin just to archive flight, that is imo still hot enough to burn any Twilight vampire that touches him or gets near him to crisp.

Because the two times Johnny went Supernova was-

-In an enclosed environment that could scientifically contain the effects (but was failing).
-Was focused on Doom. Who stood still whilst Sue provided the protection (and she struggled).

7 or so Cullens, vamps who speedblitz around the environment won't be as easy to contain like Doom was. If Sue focuses on one or 2 vamps she is open to being speedblitzed by the rest.

Alice will see such a tactic before it happens and will tell her family to run apart as soon as possible.

Sue can only (in film) make force bubbles in singular selective areas.

Sue would better serve as a defensive character for her own team and more importantly...herself!

Originally posted by the ninjak
Johnny would refuse to use a Supernova in an open area.

Due to the fact that Reed told him such temperatures unenclosed could have disastrous results.

The Johnny in the movie universe doesn't have the experience that the comic version has.
Heck in the comic universe Johnny rarely used Supernova unless he knew there was no consequence.
Recently we've seen him use it over and over again in the Negative Zone whilst being a slave gladiator. He now knows the limits of his power now.

Movie Johnny doesn't want to destroy Forks.

Though he can keep to the air and zip around. This fight depends on the F4 keeping together with the knowledge the werewolves have supplied them on the Cullen's abilities and using that knowledge to their advantage.

The Cullens have Alice's precog. And Edwards telepathic advantage in battle.

The F4 obviously have a degree of prep due to the fact the wolves told them everything they know in order to kill the vamps.

The Thing is stronger than a Twivamp and we don't know if a vamps bite would even effect his rocky form.
We also don't know if the vamps can pierce Reed's elastic form. Heck he wrapped himself around London's Ferris Wheel and held on!

The OP states that the F4 members are ready whilst the Cullens come out to face their opponents. So no bullshit speedblitzing Sue before she hits the ground nonsense I've heard from people.

The problem with this fight is the F4 on film have only faced few opponents.-

-One was capable of defeating them one on one but not altogether.
-The others were godlike in ability.

The best we have to go off is them stopping the bridge and ferris wheel feats. Which the Cullens would've had no chance of stopping.
And the Cullens would've been unable to defeat Doom as well.

Problem with this is that even though the F4 have prep while the Twivamps don't, the vamps have Edward's telepathy and Alice's precog which means they should have at least an idea of what the f4 are capable of... so speed blitzing whomever they think the biggest threat is is still a plausible attack scenario. I'm also unsure on just how versatile Bella's shielding capabilities are, but they should also be taken into account here.

I agree that the Twivamps aren't as strong or tough as the Thing, but ALL of them are stronger and tougher than Reed, Sue, and Johnny. Plus the fact that they are ALL again incredibly fast... well as much as the fanboy in me wants to say F4 wins, I just don't see them beating the twivamps. Of course it's possible, but they're already outnumbered and their prep is negated by twivamp's telepathy and precog.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Problem with this is that even though the F4 have prep while the Twivamps don't, the vamps have Edward's telepathy and Alice's precog which means they should have at least an idea of what the f4 are capable of... so speed blitzing whomever they think the biggest threat is is still a plausible attack scenario. I'm also unsure on just how versatile Bella's shielding capabilities are, but they should also be taken into account here.

I agree that the Twivamps aren't as strong or tough as the Thing, but ALL of them are stronger and tougher than Reed, Sue, and Johnny. Plus the fact that they are ALL again incredibly fast... well as much as the fanboy in me wants to say F4 wins, I just don't see them beating the twivamps. Of course it's possible, but they're already outnumbered and their prep is negated by twivamp's telepathy and precog.

Agreed, the F4 are in trouble.

Though I don't believe Bella's abilities will have any effect on the F4.