Thor VS Thanos

Originally posted by h1a8
^did what?

You just showed your ignorance once again. Thanos Clone Thanosi took his own blast and came back to battle Thor, it's not 10 fold it's was 100 fold that Thor sent back to Thanosi and he survied. Thanosi was more powerful than modern day Mangog and that alone says a lot, and Thanosi is still weaker than original Thanos.

Thanos will defeated Thor but it wont be easy for him unlike Silver Surfer where Thanos owns him like a hoe on the street corner, Thor is warrior/God and won't give up and has more options. Thanos is smart and not stupid if he go's head up with Thor w/ hammer and all he will get f**k up but he will still win.

Thanos will beat Thor for the majority everytime, but I would be suprise if Thor defeats him since he does have the powerset to challenge him and grab a few victories, Thor and Adam Warlock are the few beings that can defeat Thanos without it beings PIS.

Originally posted by Blanket
Find it odd that you have scans for everything else, BUT this. Unless you're talking about amped Thor, amped Thanos clone. Because well then, seriously?

sly

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosDefeated.jpg

Satisfied?

Originally posted by Blanket
Right, like I've said, did seemingly nothing to Thanos, at all.

Yes, I’m sure the dialogue and Thanos being blasted away for two pages was meant to indicate that said attack did absolutely nothing to Thanos at all.

Originally posted by Blanket
You're not being clear, and you're arguing about a non point. I don't think you have any reason to question people's comprehension.
I just thought you'd be better than arguing about the belt of strength for no reason, when you outright admitted Thor's durability was still amped. lulz

Uhuh.

I don't think you even know what were discussing.

I never denied that Thor's durability was amped when he had the shield. Not once. The two durability feats I brought up were before the tools were given to him and after the shield was destroyed.

Originally posted by Blanket
The armor as a whole was fused with the Odin Force, not just the shield. He was still amped after the shield broke, etc. Either way, still not Thor's durability.

And that's the reason why I posted these scans:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosDefeated.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated4.jpg

Thor apparently felt the Odin Force only after he put on the shield. The second scan where he says the Odin Force is infused within the shield is the only reason I even decided to bring up this incident where Thor tanks two hits from the amped Thanos to the face.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated7.jpg

And like I told you before, the big durability feat where he tanks Thanos' energy attack comes from before the tools are even given to him, hence I don't care about the above feat. Thor had sufficient blunt force durability showings in that arc.

Originally posted by Blanket
I'm rambling on? Hilarious coming from a guy who's arguing about a small detail when admitting Thor was still amped...
Hilarious coming from a guy who's arguing against me about Thanos' status in IG, when I made a small blurp about it.

Small detail. Blurb. Lol.

Originally posted by Blanket
It is a big deal though. Spider-Man almost drops Thanos with the IG with a kick after webbing his eyes. This shit sound normal to you?

Drops him? He moves Thanos slightly backwards you loon. That’s all. Thor’s the one who pounds him like a nail, bringing him to his knees.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos5.jpg

Originally posted by Blanket
I adressed that. Cyclops shouldn't have had Thanos putting so much power into his forward movement that he stumbles when he cuts it off. It would be like some blowing on you and then stopping. You're not going to stumble forward, so why should Thanos (the guy who can swat Surfer's blasts with a hand)?
Hell, Cyke also had Thanos block his blast too... something I just noticed.

😐 Are you purposely trying to be silly?

Thanos was casually walking through his beams with no affect at all. He was even smiling. Thanos not actively negating the laws of physics and gravity is not any evidence of anything. At all.

Thanos raised his freaking hand. That shit might have just been instinctive. Do you honestly think Starlin gave this shit nearly as much thought as you are? Yea, that’s a great analogy.

Originally posted by Blanket
Still, like I said, something that shouldn't happen. Same with Cloak putting Thanos in his cloak as well...

Something that shouldn’t have happened? They grabbed him from behind and sent him flying. Thanos was not all knowing. He was actively willing his senses down. Did you not read his series?

Once again, Thanos not actively negating the laws of physics and gravity which affect his physical body is not proof of anything. He didn't will the Infinity Gauntlet to make himself unmovable.

facepalm

Cloak came from behind and entrapped him. Once again, Thanos was actively turning down the all knowing aspect of the Infinity Gauntlet.

Originally posted by Blanket
And you're trying to uplay Thanos in that series to make Thor's feat even more impressive, fancy that, eh?

I’m not trying to do anything of the sort. I’m simply correcting your idiocy and calling you out on your incredibly pathetic stance.

ZOMG, they turned his head and he stumbled!!!! The Thor scene shouldn’t really count!! = The gist of your argument

That incident is impressive enough that I don’t have to do what your insinuating. If I wanted to make Thanos seem more impressive, I’d start noting that he completely unharmed by everything thrown his way.

Originally posted by Blanket
Thor 'knocks out' Thanos one time (that could be construed as him toying with them anyway), and he does what Hulk did the other time. Neither should happen. All I've been saying is that the comic felt odd for someone who is supposed to be Thanos plus, if Thanos wasn't toying around.

I don’t even know what you said in the first sentence. Are you referring to the scene where Thanos let’s Hulk pound on him which does absolutely nothing?

Thanos was toying with them. That was the entire point of the damn fight. That he gave them something resembling a chance.

That still doesn’t somehow negate what Thor did. As you might have noticed, none of the attacks against Thanos did anything close to resembling what Thor accomplished. Even when Masterson punches him, it clearly states his taken aback. When Drax and the Hulk attack him, their called bothersome fleas and he takes their blows with a smile. There’s a very distinct difference between the affect Thor has on Thanos, and the affect the other heroes have on him. Adam Warlock even states that this was a game of power and Thor was their most powerful card as I recall.

Originally posted by Blanket
Then there's where I call PIS multiple times that you've ignored, so whatever I guess.

You can scream P.I.S. all you like. I don’t give a shit. As long as idiots use the worst Thor’s done against Thanos as their sole evidence and reasoning, I’ll bring this scene up. And frankly, I don’t remember you calling this scene P.I.S. even once in this argument.

Originally posted by Blanket
All of them had Thanos getting smashed around when he shouldn't have. Also, speaking of unharmed, none of the attacks actually left Thanos harmed. Not Wolverine, not Thor, not Hulk, etc. However, the moment they happened, we can see effects. Thor, Wolverine, and even when Hulk is beating on him when he's doing nothing. It was borderline retarded.

You know what? I’m beginning to think that A. Your purposefully wasting my time or B. You didn’t read the issue in question or even bother to look at my scans.

The attacks did absolutely nothing to Thanos at all. Thanos purposefully let the Hulk punch him and had a damn smile on his face. Even when Wolverine apparently broke Thanos’ skin, Thanos smiled They had absolutely no affect on him.

Originally posted by Blanket
I do understand though. But by you initiating an argument with me over it, I start to think you actually believe this is a viable example... and with your history of Thor/Thanos, you know...

Do you understand? Do you really? I'm not getting the sense that you are.

😐 I didn't initiate anything. You replied to my post, questioning me using this scene and bringing up those moments which prove absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Blanket
I never said he took it easy, I just said he wasn't KO'ed.

Also, how do you expect him to be after a seemingly faster than light hammer throw? Stiff as a board? Of course he's going to be folded up.

I never said that you said he took it easily.

Thanos seems to have a glass jaw when it comes to Mjolnir throws. No surprise he does his best to block them.

Originally posted by Blanket
I realize what you're attacking, but in the end, you're using scans from IG that go against absolutely everything to counter something that goes against none of the Thanos/Thor battles, besides that one.

That incident was the closest Thanos ever came to putting Thor down under his own power.

Thor simply done better against Thanos than vise versa if we low ball. Dem's the breaks. I'll not use that scene as my sole reasoning for Thor beating Thanos, so don't worry our pretty little head.

Still, it's no surprise Thanos does his best to avoid getting he by a Mjolnir throw.

Originally posted by Blanket
In the end, you're still defending Thor no matter what happens. Two shotted, three shotted, 10 shotted, it doesn't matter. Thor still went on his knees helpless at the time. Bringing up something like you brought up really makes it hard for you to "well, I only brought it up because they brought up this!!!". 😬

That's kind of my shtick if you haven't noticed.

And in the end, Thanos was still KTFO while amped. No two ways around it. If your going to use that type of unwavering logic, so am I.

Originally posted by Blanket
Counter idiotic statements with idiotic proof solves nothing.

Lmao at the hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Blanket
Also, you're still arguing with me on this detail, and you're acting annoyed, so I figure you have some sort of belief in it.

I get annoyed when I encounter stupidity.

Originally posted by Blanket
Then don't low ball him when I make a small quip about it, simple really. Otherwise people start believing your low balling. 😬

You started by this debate by posting nonsensical bullshit about how everyone was knocking Thanos around, and Thor would only be slightly above Spider-Man in that issue.

Now that I've called you on it, your suddenly all hesitant. Next time keep your mouth shut. I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Thor has never beaten Thanos or come close without pis and Warlock has only ever beaten Thanos through a massive amp\plot device

Thanos has never beaten Thor without resorting to a weapon, the coward.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thanos has never beaten Thor without resorting to a weapon, the coward.

He never gave it a name. He used it to encase Thor in a block of pure force. Some time manipulation was involved as well according to Odin.

But he never has!!!!

He had him beat when Thor needed Things help, Thor was prone for 2 pages at Thanos mercy and was saved by the other heroes turning up.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

But he never has!!!!

thanos is far stronger than thor...physically, he'd manhandle thor like a ragdoll

Originally posted by Nihilist
He had him beat when Thor needed Things help, Thor was prone for 2 pages at Thanos mercy and was saved by the other heroes turning up.

He had the advantage but he never defeated Thor. The magic of the Thanos camp. Knock outs aren't knock outs. Beat downs are stalemates.

Logic and Thanos' dialogue dictates that he kept on attacking Thor. There was a reason why he stated he'd follow up with more blasts that would eventually bring Thor down like they did the Thing. Apparently still not enough.

Thanos was able to bring Thor to his knees in that issue. Thor was able to put Thanos on his ass with the help of the Thing in the same issue.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so...doesn't mean he can't

thanos is far stronger than thor...physically, he'd manhandle thor like a ragdoll

Sure.

Except he never has. The closest his ever come to doing that is when Thor jumps at Thanos, and while his in midair, Thanos knocks Thor over him.

Let me ask you a question.

Why is Thanos far stronger than Thor physically?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Why is Thanos far stronger than Thor physically?

so yeah that puts thanos far above thor

Originally posted by Starscream M
he's held his own against Odin for awhile and Odin was only able to beat him using a weapon

so yeah that puts thanos far above thor

1) He was getting beat down.
2) Gungnir does nothing but channel Odin's power. At least back then.
3) Thor has not only also withstood attacks from Odin (Including a blast from Gungnir). His also literally outperformed Odin. On more than one occasion strangely enough.

Thanos' highs aren't higher than Thor's highs. Not at all.

Luckily his lows were retconned.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) He was getting beat down.
2) Gungnir does nothing but channel Odin's power. At least back then.
3) Thor has not only also withstood attacks from Odin (Including a blast from Gungnir). His also literally outperformed Odin. On more than one occasion strangely enough.

Thanos' highs aren't higher than Thor's highs. Not at all.

Luckily his lows were retconned.

how did thor outperform odin (you sure there wasn't some context or plotdevice)

Originally posted by Starscream M
he was holding his own against odin. and gugnir does boost odin's power or else he wouldn't have needed it.

how did thor outperform odin (you sure there wasn't some context or plotdevice)

Why not. People can have different definitions.

Not from what I've seen. I even recall a bio stating that all it does is channel his power. It's highly durable and also has the capabilities of returning to him not unlike Mjolnir as I recall. Even Odin's scepter is nothing but a conduit for Odin.

Off the top of my head:

1) Thor tanks attacks that punctured through the Odin Destroyer (Odin+All of Asgard+Energy from the Skyfather heads) and damages a Celestial that was shrugging off the blows of the Odin Destroyer.

2) Thor with double the strength was able to break through Exitar's shell and using the God Blast was able to break through his brain dome. An energy bolt possessing the combined power of Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu -who are all Skyfathers- couldn't even dent Arishem. Exitar > Arishem. Thor also tossed the Odinsword through Arishem, but that's not completely fair.

Thanos beat Thor with some effort but not a lot

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Off the top of my head:

1) Thor tanks attacks that punctured through the Odin Destroyer (Odin+All of Asgard+Energy from the Skyfather heads) and damages a Celestial that was shrugging off the blows of the Odin Destroyer.

2) Thor with double the strength was able to break through Exitar's shell and using the God Blast was able to break through his brain dome. An energy bolt possessing the combined power of Odin, Zeus, and Vishnu who are all Skyfathers couldn't even dent Arishem. Exitar > Arishem. Thor also tossed the Odinsword through Arishem.

Originally posted by Starscream M
if you accept that, then I guess you think thor is more powerful than galactus as well

Hey, you're the one who started bringing up the high showings.

mhmm

You know, I could probably make a case for that if I tried. The Beyonder did state that Thor was a being with great power not unlike himself.

Thor did have Galactus running for the hills in fear of his life and caused him pain unlike any he had ever felt with a throw. It would explain the reason as to why Galactus went to Thor for help when Ego had grown to the point he was more powerful than him.

vin

You know what? Any time Thor doesn't stop Galactus is P.I.S.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
sly

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos1.jpg
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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/WithstandsAmpedThanos5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosDefeated.jpg

Satisfied?

Yes, I’m sure the dialogue and Thanos being blasted away for two pages was meant to indicate that said attack did absolutely nothing to Thanos at all.

Uhuh.

I don't think you even know what were discussing.

I never denied that Thor's durability was amped when he had the shield. Not once. The two durability feats I brought up were before the tools were given to him and after the shield was destroyed.

And that's the reason why I posted these scans:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosDefeated.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated4.jpg

Thor apparently felt the Odin Force only after he put on the shield. The second scan where he says the Odin Force is infused within the shield is the only reason I even decided to bring up this incident where Thor tanks two hits from the amped Thanos to the face.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated6.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AmpedThanosdefeated7.jpg

And like I told you before, the big durability feat where he tanks Thanos' energy attack comes from before the tools are even given to him, hence I don't care about the above feat. Thor had sufficient blunt force durability showings in that arc.

Small detail. Blurb. Lol.

Drops him? He moves Thanos slightly backwards you loon. That’s all. Thor’s the one who pounds him like a nail, bringing him to his knees.

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/yy73/R-O-G/Thor/ThorvsThanos5.jpg

😐 Are you purposely trying to be silly?

Thanos was casually walking through his beams with no affect at all. He was even smiling. Thanos not actively negating the laws of physics and gravity is not any evidence of anything. At all.

Thanos raised his freaking hand. That shit might have just been instinctive. Do you honestly think Starlin gave this shit nearly as much thought as you are? Yea, that’s a great analogy.

Something that shouldn’t have happened? They grabbed him from behind and sent him flying. Thanos was not all knowing. He was actively willing his senses down. Did you not read his series?

Once again, Thanos not actively negating the laws of physics and gravity which affect his physical body is not proof of anything. He didn't will the Infinity Gauntlet to make himself unmovable.

facepalm

Cloak came from behind and entrapped him. Once again, Thanos was actively turning down the all knowing aspect of the Infinity Gauntlet.

I’m not trying to do anything of the sort. I’m simply correcting your idiocy and calling you out on your incredibly pathetic stance.

ZOMG, they turned his head and he stumbled!!!! The Thor scene shouldn’t really count!! = The gist of your argument

That incident is impressive enough that I don’t have to do what your insinuating. If I wanted to make Thanos seem more impressive, I’d start noting that he completely unharmed by everything thrown his way.

I don’t even know what you said in the first sentence. Are you referring to the scene where Thanos let’s Hulk pound on him which does absolutely nothing?

Thanos was toying with them. That was the entire point of the damn fight. That he gave them something resembling a chance.

That still doesn’t somehow negate what Thor did. As you might have noticed, none of the attacks against Thanos did anything close to resembling what Thor accomplished. Even when Masterson punches him, it clearly states his taken aback. When Drax and the Hulk attack him, their called bothersome fleas and he takes their blows with a smile. There’s a very distinct difference between the affect Thor has on Thanos, and the affect the other heroes have on him. Adam Warlock even states that this was a game of power and Thor was their most powerful card as I recall.

You can scream P.I.S. all you like. I don’t give a shit. As long as idiots use the worst Thor’s done against Thanos as their sole evidence and reasoning, I’ll bring this scene up. And frankly, I don’t remember you calling this scene P.I.S. even once in this argument.

You know what? I’m beginning to think that [b]A. Your purposefully wasting my time or B. You didn’t read the issue in question or even bother to look at my scans.

The attacks did absolutely nothing to Thanos at all. Thanos purposefully let the Hulk punch him and had a damn smile on his face. Even when Wolverine apparently broke Thanos’ skin, Thanos smiled They had absolutely no affect on him.

Do you understand? Do you really? I'm not getting the sense that you are.

😐 I didn't initiate anything. You replied to my post, questioning me using this scene and bringing up those moments which prove absolutely nothing.

I never said that you said he took it easily.

Thanos seems to have a glass jaw when it comes to Mjolnir throws. No surprise he does his best to block them. [/B]

Sometimes you're a complete tool... You admit that Thanos was just toying with the heroes.. as evidence of them effecting him when nobody should have done a thing... Yet believe that M. Thor was the exception and Thanos was trying when he faced him.. and thus an impressive showing for M. Thor? LOL LOL. Are you kidding me? HE WAS TOYING WITH ALL THE HEROES. PERIOD. That includes M. Thor that includes ALL OF THEM. So nothing anybody did in those PIS scenes proves a damn thing. Thanos casually pwns Eternity yet you think M. Thor knocking him down wasn't him playing with the heroes just like you claim he was with others? Do you try and act like a tool sometimes or does that just come naturally?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Sometimes you're a complete tool... You admit that Thanos was just toying with the heroes.. as evidence of them effecting him when nobody should have done a thing... Yet believe that M. Thor was the exception and Thanos was trying when he faced him.. and thus an impressive showing for M. Thor? LOL LOL. Are you kidding me? HE WAS TOYING WITH ALL THE HEROES. PERIOD. That includes M. Thor that includes ALL OF THEM. So nothing anybody did in those PIS scenes proves a damn thing. Thanos casually pwns Eternity yet you think M. Thor knocking him down wasn't him playing with the heroes just like you claim he was with others? Do you try and act like a tool sometimes or does that just come naturally?

You know, it would help if you read my entire post -twice- and understood what I was saying instead of rambling on like an idiot about how much of a tool I am. Which is ironic.

Of course he was toying with the heroes. He was actively turning down the all knowing aspect to give them a fighting chance while casually killing them with a smile on his face. He was having fun with them.

I acknowledge this. However, this doesn't change what Masterson Thor did. At all. Thanos wasn't actively turning down his durability to levels below say even his original ones -I know you wish that was the case- nor would he allow himself to be knocked out or taken out in anyway. It wasn't Thanos' plan to end up down on the ground limp, with Doom moments away from getting the gauntlet.

Why is this so hard to grasp? Is common sense something that the hardcore Thanos camp naturally lacks?

You can call the scenes P.I.S. I don't care. I won't bring them up in even a semi serious argument unless someone tries to low ball Thor or get into a game of "Who's done worse to who" like you and I did in a previous argument.