Originally posted by Mindset
OK, Hawkgirl will run away from Spiderman at lightpeed after he beats her with his spider speed, because spiders fight at faster speeds than hawks do.
Oh Mindset, I don't think it's farfetched that Spider-Man can beat Hawkgirl but the comment she can't hit him? That's just silly.
Originally posted by lightyeargeeSpider-man kicked down Thanos with the IG once, I guess that would put him above everything Hawkgirl ever pulled off? Spidey creates a webbing baseball bat and:
never said she beat amazo. He is far tufer to hurt than say spiderman. The point that she can inflict dmg on someone with the combined durability of the jla and the speed of the flash,superman,ww,and MM, says she can tag spiderman. And spiderman sisnt going to over power her in a physical confromtation.
Originally posted by -K-M-In a fight? No, she's not gonna connect. Kraven and Do Oc (via his tentacles) both move much faster than Hawkgirl and both of them struggle to tag Spidey.
the comment she can't hit him? That's just silly.
This is a forum fight, not a comic fight were PIS makes it so that Spidey sense is irrelevant. You honestly think Hawkgirl can tag spidey with that mace or that she has combat speed great enough to counter his agility/spidey-sense? If so, scans, please.
Originally posted by Starscream M
travel speed has no relation to fighting speedcome on, you're not a noob!
That's not entirely true.
Travel speed doesn't effect the speed at which you may throw or dodge a punch and kick, but it does come into play when being able to close or create distance between you and your opponent is taken into consideration, or how fast you could bumrush someone before they could react to you.
That factor seems to get lost here on KMC.
Originally posted by illadelph12all true.
That's not entirely true.Travel speed doesn't effect the speed at which you may throw or dodge a punch and kick, but it does come into play when being able to close or create distance between you and your opponent is taken into consideration, or how fast you could bumrush someone before they could react to you.
That factor seems to get lost here on KMC.
However, the rate in which one can close the distance is irrelevant when your opponent is Spidey, who's reaction time, reflexes and agility are all top notch. So, she comes speeding at him... he's not gonna move?
You guys are making it seems as though she has combat speed that matches her flight speed, that's not the case at all.
Originally posted by marwash22
In a fight? No, she's not gonna connect. Kraven and Do Oc (via his tentacles) both move much faster than Hawkgirl and both of them struggle to tag Spidey.This is a forum fight, not a comic fight were PIS makes it so that Spidey sense is irrelevant. You honestly think Hawkgirl can tag spidey with that mace or that she has combat speed great enough to counter his agility/spidey-sense? If so, scans, please.
haha wow, your very wrong. Also no Doc Ock and especially Kraven does not move faster then Hawkgirl. Also they do tag him, so kind of a pointless example
This is a forum fight so you shall take away PIS/CIS for Spider-Man and not Hawkgirl. I have a whole respect thread all organized in my sig. Enjoy. I do enjoy your comment that apparently Spider-Man is untaggable with CIS/PIS off though.
Originally posted by marwash22
all true.However, the rate in which one can close the distance is irrelevant when your opponent is Spidey, who's reaction time, reflexes and agility are all top notch. So, she comes speeding at him... he's not gonna move?
You guys are making it seems as though she has combat speed that matches her flight speed, that's not the case at all.
Once again the Hawks have a history of fighting speedsters so your logic doesn't fully work here.
Based on? The Hawks have smilar reaction speed feats like Spider-Man even deflecting machine gun fire with their maces.
Originally posted by illadelph12
That's not entirely true.Travel speed doesn't effect the speed at which you may throw or dodge a punch and kick, but it does come into play when being able to close or create distance between you and your opponent is taken into consideration, or how fast you could bumrush someone before they could react to you.
That factor seems to get lost here on KMC.
Correct, good sir. However, that's a problem on all VS boards.
you're not comprehending what I'm saying. Both Kraven and Doc Oc move faster than Hawkgirl does... in a fight! I never said they were faster in a race.
Also, i never said Spidey was incapable of being tagged; it's just not gonna happen at the hands of Hawkgirl. Again, show me scans of her moving as quick as Kraven... in combat.
Originally posted by marwash22
you're not comprehending what I'm saying. Both Kraven and Doc Oc move faster than Hawkgirl does... in a fight! I never said they were faster in a race.Also, i never said Spidey was incapable of being tagged; it's just not gonna happen at the hands of Hawkgirl. Again, show me scans of her moving as quick as Kraven... in combat.
No I got it, and your still wrong.
Easily catches Tigrees arrow mid-flight
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/DCComics-Hawkman2002002-16.jpg
Easily avoiding gunfire
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-37-02.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-37-03.jpg
Kendra dodging laser beams from a spaceship
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-47-018.jpg
More bullet dodging
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman_03-15.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman_03-23.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/Hawkman04-08.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/BB044-11.jpg
Here the two Hawk's dodge moving lazers from the Gordanian Shredders, that if one lazer hits you you will instantly suffer brain death
1. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-49-010.jpg
2. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-49-011.jpg
3. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-49-012.jpg
4. http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/hm-49-013.jpg
etc.
