Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor, not really much of a fight.Black Adam actually beat an arguably more impressive line-up then Thor (Especially the Thunderbolt) but that's because there was as much intelligence used as Deathstroke vs. the JLA. I'm not talking about power-levels, in terms of relative power, Adam looked like shit. Seriously, lol at the implication that Power Girl and John were stronger then him. And Martian Vision melting his face? Some random Chinese ****s leaving him in such a bruised state? It was an awesome showing, but due to ferocity not power.
Thor would drop him super fast based on that. Like he'd be f*cked from a hit by Mjolnir to the face like every other herald during Blood and Thunder. Adam would fare a lot better imo playing smart, using his speed advantage etc. and praying to Shazam that he doesn't get hit.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor, not really much of a fight.Black Adam actually beat an arguably more impressive line-up then Thor (Especially the Thunderbolt) but that's because there was as much intelligence used as Deathstroke vs. the JLA. I'm not talking about power-levels, in terms of relative power, Adam looked like shit. Seriously, lol at the implication that Power Girl and John were stronger then him. And Martian Vision melting his face? Some random Chinese ****s leaving him in such a bruised state? It was an awesome showing, but due to ferocity not power.
Thor would drop him super fast based on that. Like he'd be f*cked from a hit by Mjolnir to the face like every other herald during Blood and Thunder. Adam would fare a lot better imo playing smart, using his speed advantage etc. and praying to Shazam that he doesn't get hit.
The same logic you are applying to Thor comboing BA to ko can be applied to Thor as well.
Thor has a much better chance to hit BA with a normal swing than a hammer throw.
But this version of Thor meleed more than 90% of the time. So BA with the greater speed and mobility will definitely have the advantage (at least in the beginning).
Both can rock the shit out of each other. So it's a good fight either way but I see speed and mobility outplaying everything else.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Tell that to BRB. A statement from J'onn doesn't mean anything when he was dropping elite top tiers like flies.
Yes, Beta Ray Bill temporarily got the edge over Thor. And you know how? He fought intelligently instead of going toe to toe, trying to match power. Which is exactly why I said Adam would do a lot better with a clear head, using his speed and skill advantage over a rampaging animal.
It was made explicitly clear that Adam did what he did because he was more ferocious and every attack was meant to be a killing blow or whatever. That's not going to work here, that method will just get him beat the f*ck up against Blood and Thunder Thor.
Lol? Yes, knocking out Green Lanterns that physically try to tackle you is impressive I guess, but Deathstroke can do the same. Besides that, what Elite Top Tiers are you talking about? Power Girl?
He did melt half of Adam's face off though.
Originally posted by h1a8
The same logic you are applying to Thor comboing BA to ko can be applied to Thor as well.Thor has a much better chance to hit BA with a normal swing than a hammer throw.
But this version of Thor meleed more than 90% of the time. So BA with the greater speed and mobility will definitely have the advantage (at least in the beginning).
Both can rock the shit out of each other. So it's a good fight either way but I see speed and mobility outplaying everything else.
I think a hit from Mjolnir at this stage would be noticeably more damage to Adam then a punch will be to Thor. It's been a while since I read this arc but this Thor was as tough as a Herald could be, and that hammer was either rocking Heralds hard or just straight up taking them out.
Also, Adam seemed to take a lot of attacks to the chin during World War 3. IIRC that's why he looked like such a mess.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes, Beta Ray Bill temporarily got the edge over Thor. And you know how? He fought intelligently instead of going toe to toe, trying to match power. Which is exactly why I said Adam would do a lot better with a clear head, using his speed and skill advantage over a rampaging animal.It was made explicitly clear that Adam did what he did because he was more ferocious and every attack was meant to be a killing blow or whatever. That's not going to work here, that method will just get him beat the f*ck up against Blood and Thunder Thor.
Lol? Yes, knocking out Green Lanterns that physically try to tackle you is impressive I guess, but Deathstroke can do the same. Besides that, what Elite Top Tiers are you talking about? Power Girl?
He did melt half of Adam's face off though.
BRB beat the shit out of Thor while being heavily injured. That's what happened when Thor went against a true elite brick.
Just like BRB?
Beating an elite lantern even physically is not an easy task. Tell me of the times a brick has oneshotted a GL who is not named superman.
Alan, John, Guy, PG are all elites.
That didn't stop him from beating the shit out of manhunter in three punches.
Blood and Thunder Thor did take out Dr.Strange, Adam Warlock where the soul gem had no effect on Thor neither did the Karamic blast. BRB got one shot into space in their first fight, second SS saved BRB after he cut lose on Thor and it only slowed Thor down, Thor still nearly killed if wasn't for SS board didn't get him out of dodge.
And took on two bricks that could give Black Adam a run for his money including Maxiam, Drax w/power gem didn't fair any better.
BA will walk into a buzz saw in B&T Thor, and this wasn't even the true warrior madness Thor.
Originally posted by the Darkone
Blood and Thunder Thor did take out Dr.Strange, Adam Warlock where the soul gem had no effect on Thor neither did the Karamic blast. BRB got one shot into space in their first fight, second SS saved BRB after he cut lose on Thor and it only slowed Thor down, Thor still nearly killed if wasn't for SS board didn't get him out of dodge.And took on two bricks that could give Black Adam a run for his money including Maxiam, Drax w/power gem didn't fair any better.
BA will walk into a buzz saw in B&T Thor, and this wasn't even the true warrior madness Thor.
Originally posted by abhilegend
BRB beat the shit out of Thor while being heavily injured. That's what happened when Thor went against a true elite brick.Just like BRB?
Beating an elite lantern even physically is not an easy task. Tell me of the times a brick has oneshotted a GL who is not named superman.
Alan, John, Guy, PG are all elites.
That didn't stop him from beating the shit out of manhunter in three punches.
Yeah, Thor beat him earlier, but it was that final shot that was meant for Surfer that probably left him in such a terrible state. Lol? Thor fought other elite bricks, including Bill. Pretty much everyone besides Thanos got wrecked trying to fight Thor head on. Which is exactly what would happen to Adam.
Yes, just like Bill.
It certainly is when they're tackling him like Kryptonians. He broke John's ribs by tossing Power Girl at him, they weren't even using auto-shields apparently. Just horrible.
I don't consider Power Girl an elite. Probably not Guy or John either.
He knocked John down with a few punches after overloading his telepathy with ferocity or whatever, nice I guess but I'm not impressed. But it was pretty obvious that rocking the absolute shit out of Adam was not outside of John's strength. He even melted his face off. His not facing someone who will easily fold, be put off by ferocity. Adam is f*cked here.
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His facing an opponent at least as strong, more durable and powerful who's just as ferocious and willing to kill. He needs a clear head, because Mjolnir shots to the dome are going to end him.
Originally posted by Golgo13
That wasn't the only time Adam looked that bad. When he fought the JSA in John's run, he was similarly bruised, but still kept on going. Adam is a beast.
There's no doubt he can take a beating and keep going. No one is denying that, but that's not going to save him here.
Frankly, I don't think WW3 was even Adam's best showing, to me he's looked more impressive before.
[QUOTE=14317313]Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
There's no doubt he can take a beating and keep going. No one is denying that, but that's not going to save him here.
Frankly, I don't think WW3 was even Adam's best showing, to me he's looked more impressive before. [/QUOTE
Which showings do u have in mind? The JSA one? The one where he took Onimar's blows and kept on going?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think a hit from Mjolnir at this stage would be noticeably more damage to Adam then a punch will be to Thor. It's been a while since I read this arc but this Thor was as tough as a Herald could be, and that hammer was either rocking Heralds hard or just straight up taking them out.Also, Adam seemed to take a lot of attacks to the chin during World War 3. IIRC that's why he looked like such a mess.
It depends on what type of Mjolnir hit.
Sure a mighty slam can devastate BA. But what are the chances to hit BA with one of those? Thor better start off jab swinging with the hammer to ensure a hit. But BA isn't going to sit there either, he's aggressive too. So Thor would be on the defensive some (if he is smart).
I agree that Thor has the potential to do more damage than BA would typical do to Thor with a single hit (It's kinda close though in that regard). But speed and mobility plays a good role in not only defense but getting more hits in.
I think it's a low showing that BA got his face melted and shouldn't be considered average. Also I don't equate energy durability with blunt force trauma durability anyway. We all know BA can take some major blunt force punishment from heavy hitters like Superman and CM and even survive hits from Prime.
It's just my opinion that speed and mobility is most important in this fight.
