iron fist vs thor is a hand 2 hand fight

Originally posted by basilisk
The thing is that Mantis did not do anything particularly special there. She just karate chopped a nerve cluster in Thor's neck and he dropped like a rock and was out cold for quite some time. No powers, no enhanced human necessary. Dumb as it is, and as much as I think Thor should be tougher than that, that's what the writer thought about Thor's ability to take a pressure point attack.

I have no doubt that IF is well capable of doing the same move with the same result. The question is, in a straight up fight is any human/enhanced human MA good enough to get in and deliver the blow, because Mantis took him by surprise. You would think Thor would be fast and strong enough to prevent this but some writers portray him as pretty stupid in a fight.

Yo Good, didn't you make a Mantis respect thread?

Mantis has gone toe to toe with the West Coast Avengers and taken out Wonderman with a nerve based attack, right?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yo Good, didn't you make a Mantis respect thread?

Mantis has gone toe to toe with the West Coast Avengers and taken out Wonderman with a nerve based attack, right?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yep on all counts. And unless I'm remembering wrong it was all before her Celestial Madonna upgrade.

Thanks for the confirmation. It's been a while. And I've always hated Mantis. Englehart really loved her as you more than likely realize if you've read her under his pen.

I'm pretty sure it was.

Oh, and I see you replied to my post in the other thread. I'll make sure to reply by tomorrow. Either before or after work.

she has the ability to sense weak points, maybe thor has a weak point on his neck? 😄

just like hulk?

yea!

Iron Fist dies.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Iron Fist dies.

Originally posted by nicamarvin
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you really think IF could win? He doesn't stand a chance in hell.

Thor dies. Can't handle Fist's fists.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
😂

Once again: Anyone using the Mantis scene as evidence that Iron Fist wins using the logic that he can do the same must be joking.

An Englehart written Mantis is ridiculous at times.

Mantis has done everything from knocking an Elder of the Universe for a loop to going toe to toe with the West Coast Avengers.

And as I recall, Mantis was able to use nerve based attack to temporarily take out Englehart's Wonderman -who I believe was Ionic Energy at the time- and use a Karate Chop to the neck to incapacitate Vision.

Thor defeats Iron Fist everytime.

Hey now, Captain America did say that Iron Fist was a good as Mantis...

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Right before he said that wasn't nearly as good as he was. 😮