Cross Genre Thread #6: Mewtwo (Anime) vs Magneto

Started by jalek moye13 pages

Thats not time manip because it all still happened. Seems more liek he stopped his storm (which he was the one controlling.) and then he erased their memories like he said as he teleported them back.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Thats not time manip because it all still happened. Seems more liek he stopped his storm (which he was the one controlling.) and then he erased their memories like he said as he teleported them back.

Your not paying attention, look at the scenario. They are back where they started. Notice pokemon authorities, and people are repeating the same dialogue. This lets us know that Mewtwo sent them back to the beginning.

Mewtwo himself I'm pretty stated that all he did was erase the memories of everyone of anything involving him and leaving the the rest the same. Otherwise the whole Giovanni and them knowing all about the events and Mewtwo stated that all he did was erase their memories i nthe sequel wouldn't make sense.

If he altered the past they wouldn't have had any memories to erase.

Also atleast imo if he changed history wouldnt they be back before they got the little invite instead of at the docks.

If Mewtwo reset time, the clones he created wouldn't exist. All I remember from Mewtwo Returns is this:

YouTube video

Start at 1:00 and turn off the volume. You can stop watching at 1:50.

Either he selectively turned back time (but didn't undo his clones) or he erased their memories and placed everyone back in the exact same positions that they started. Either explanation is a bit wonky.

MewTwo erased the memories. He said so himself.

So unfortunately, no time manipulation. Moving an entire island is still pretty damn good though.

Foord for thought. If you are sent back to an early age, you would still retain your memories.

Wait are u saying he somehow put only those three back in time? Or that he rewrote history because ur above statement confused me

What he did do wasn't time manip, but was still pretty large scale. He erased all knowledge of his storm and everythign that transpired on NEw Island, that any of the trainers ever went there ect.

But yeah, feats for green suit pheonix?

Mewtwo shadow balls Meganeto into oblivion.

He didn’t erase the knowledge of the storm, because its still going on until it abruptly ends.

Look at the video. Events had already moved past Officer Jenny’s dialogue, yet strangely she is repeating herself from the opening scene.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Wait are u saying he somehow put only those three back in time? Or that he rewrote history because ur above statement confused me

this lets us know that Mewtwo sent them back to the beginning.

Originally posted by "Id"
He didn’t erase the knowledge of the storm, because its still going on until it abruptly ends.

Look at the video. Events had already moved past Officer Jenny’s dialogue, yet strangely she is repeating herself opening scene.

this lets us know that Mewtwo sent them back to the beginning.

If you look at that video, you'd notice that Ash/Brock/Misty announce that they don't remember how the heck they get there

If it really was just time manipulation. Then they would still at least know why they ran to the pokemon center from the storm at 9:10, the last part of the movie
They don't even know why they are there, and funny how they just easily accept this

And are you still going to ignore what jalek said about what Mewtwo announced in the 2nd movie? Mewtwo straight up said that he erased their memorys
not time travel

Announcement: Anyone who thinks Mewtwo poses even a slight threat to Magneto is hereby ordered to turn over their DS for summary destruction. That is all

I don't understand why Magneto is where he is if he's really this good. Shouldn't he be in like, Mid Herald at least if his shields are that great?

Originally posted by Etna
If you look at that video, you'd notice that Ash/Brock/Misty announce that they don't remember how the heck they get there

If it really was just time manipulation. Then they would still at least know why they ran to the pokemon center from the storm at 9:10, the last part of the movie
They don't even know why they are there, and funny how they just easily accept this

And are you still going to ignore what jalek said about what Mewtwo announced in the 2nd movie? Mewtwo straight up said that he erased their memorys
not time travel

Kindly point out the part where I denied Mewtwo erased their memories. facepalm

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I don't understand why Magneto is where he is if he's really this good. Shouldn't he be in like, Mid Herald at least if his shields are that great?

people are wierd, they put ghost rider at mid meta and we know what he is capable of. Teh fact that the tcomic tier got closed might ahve somethign to do with everything being wonky also.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I don't understand why Magneto is where he is if he's really this good. Shouldn't he be in like, Mid Herald at least if his shields are that great?
isn't he mid-herald? he should be

I see. I made this suggestion based on his position in low Herald, lol.

Nice to see this worked out so well.

Originally posted by jalek moye
people are wierd, they put ghost rider at mid meta and we know what he is capable of. Teh fact that the tcomic tier got closed might ahve somethign to do with everything being wonky also.

Well aside from the Penance Stare being an absolutely broken attack his other abilities aren't really that impressive. If you're immune to the PS then GR is about Mid Meta in terms of threat.

It's not yet been proven MewTwo loses 10/10 times. I demand feats of Green suited pheonix to prove MewTwo can definitively not get through the shield. It's been proven Magneto probably takes a large majority, as he has some great feats, but I'm not yet convinced MewTwo is totally hopeless against Magneto.