Cross Genre Thread #6: Mewtwo (Anime) vs Magneto

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
It's not yet been proven MewTwo loses 10/10 times. I demand feats of Green suited pheonix to prove MewTwo can definitively not get through the shield. It's been proven Magneto probably takes a large majority, as he has some great feats, but I'm not yet convinced MewTwo is totally hopeless against Magneto.

Ask ID, I think he's the resident Phoenix fan here. That being said he's been shown taking way more than telekinetic force so I don't see the debate and the fact that he's durable enough to take the blast head on and fast enough to dodge.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well aside from the Penance Stare being an absolutely broken attack his other abilities aren't really that impressive. If you're immune to the PS then GR is about Mid Meta in terms of threat.

Not to turn this into a ghost rider thread. All of his hell fire is pretty powerful, especially current ghost rider I do agree that classic wasn't all that though.

I think it should be noted that one of Mewtwo's primary attacks, Shadow Ball, is not a telekinetic attack. It's classified as Ghost, not Psychic, so it'd be more of a supernatural attack. And for some reason Disable (the move that suppresses other's abilities) is classified as Normal, not Psychic, as well. I don't know why.

Anyway, besides blood manipulation, what can Magneto do offensively?

Can you capture Mewtwo with a pokeball?

Originally posted by kgkg
Can you capture Mewtwo with a pokeball?

In the first Generation games, Mewtwo could dodge pokeballs altogether. Not every time, mind you, but it did happen occasionally.

Originally posted by The Scenario
In the first Generation games, Mewtwo could dodge pokeballs altogether. Not every time, mind you, but it did happen occasionally.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I think it should be noted that one of Mewtwo's primary attacks, Shadow Ball, is not a telekinetic attack. It's classified as Ghost, not Psychic, so it'd be more of a supernatural attack. And for some reason Disable (the move that suppresses other's abilities) is classified as Normal, not Psychic, as well. I don't know why.

Anyway, besides blood manipulation, what can Magneto do offensively?

Punch him, inhibit his powers, drop mountains on him, manipulate the metal around them. He has a plethora of options. Also Shadow Ball isn't getting past his shields nor is it fast enough to hit him. Magneto is faster and has faster reflexes than Mewtwo this has been proven.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which is why you had the Master Ball. It was more or less impossible to catch him with a regular Pokeball or Great Ball and incredibly difficult with an Ultra Ball if possible at all (I vaguely remember hearing about a friend of mine catching him with an Ultra Ball once).

my friends used to do it and show me all the time.
Done it myself
first you save game before talking to him (in case you kill him by mistake)
What you do is use Blastoise (or any strong water pokemon)
Use Blizzard/Ice Beam (or any strong ice type attack)
And attack him till he is Frozen
The ultra ball should work

i caught him using 99 pokeballs. it didnt take all 99 though i think 50 or so

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nah, was world wide

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Destroying a bridge is extremely different. A cat has done the same exact thing. What gives you the impression it was resonance anyway?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
and was not resonance. He is clearly seen whipping up the storm with a simple twirl of his hand in the movie, which glows blue with his signiature psychic aura.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
What it is is capable of destroying the world to eliminate all of the weak Pokemon and Humans to make way for he and his clones to repopulate it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Was also powerful enough to as I keep saying wipe all life, that's a massive power output.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Also, psychic powers in pokemon have never shown a weakness to electromegnetic fields like that have in Marvel.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Massive Hurricane is massive.

Originally posted by "Id"
He didn’t erase the knowledge of the storm, because its still going on until it abruptly ends.

Look at the video. Events had already moved past Officer Jenny’s dialogue, yet strangely she is repeating herself from the opening scene.

this lets us know that Mewtwo sent them back to the beginning.

As mentioned, if he manipulated time the clones of the trainers' pokémon wouldn't exist.

So drop Mewtwo's tail, and admit that this is a terrible mismatch. Mewtwo is closer to the league of Naruto shinobi than he is to Magneto.

Oh and Mewtwo can be caught by a Pokéball, though status conditions are required. Otherwise it's 1 in 255 that it won't miss.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
MewTwo erased the memories. He said so himself.

So unfortunately, no time manipulation. Moving an entire island is still pretty damn good though.

Magneto has moved a giant bullet from light years away. More impressive.

1. It was said that only the best trainers would make it through that. The one kid had a Gyrados. I can only name two trainers in the entire series that have a Gyrados that aren't him. Misty, and possibly Crasher Wake. Both are gym leaders.

As for the flier, Pidgeot are capable of flying at Mach 2.

2. MewTwo said himself the objective of the storm was to destroy the world.

3. I fail to see how windmills prove resonance.

4. We also do not know that he twirled it up over time. The one time we see him physically create a twirl in the clouds, it's over a small area of clouds within the much larger storm. At that point the storm was already built.

5. I did not argue MewTwo would use the storm anyway. >_>

6. Naruto level? Bull. Shit.

The storm would get dispersed by Magneto anyway so it's power doesn't even matter.

Yeah, I'm not saying MewTwo wins anymore. What I am doing is correcting Astner.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. It was said that only the best trainers would make it through that. The one kid had a Gyrados. I can only name two trainers in the entire series that have a Gyrados that aren't him. Misty, and possibly Crasher Wake. Both are gym leaders.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
As for the flier, Pidgeot are capable of flying at Mach 2.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
2. MewTwo said himself the objective of the storm was to destroy the world.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
3. I fail to see how windmills prove resonance.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
4. We also do not know that he twirled it up over time. The one time we see him physically create a twirl in the clouds, it's over a small area of clouds within the much larger storm. At that point the storm was already built.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
5. I did not argue MewTwo would use the storm anyway. >_>

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
6. Naruto level? Bull. Shit.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Yeah, I'm not saying MewTwo wins anymore. What I am doing is correcting Astner.

Questioning MooCowofJustice is a ban-worthy offense for the rest of the day. sneer

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Originally posted by Badabing
Questioning MooCowofJustice is a ban-worthy offense for the rest of the day. sneer

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Originally posted by Astner
Brock, Ash and Misty used Squirtle and Staryu, another trainer used a Dewgong. None of which are impressive.

Ash's Squirtle does actually happen to be rather impressive, as does Misty's Staryu.

Originally posted by Astner
According to the Pokédex, but it sure as hell didn't fly close to those speeds with a trainer on its back. Because well, the trainer would die.

Point being? A mach 2 flier has incredible strength in it's wings. Who said it has to fly at that speed to get through the storm?

Originally posted by Astner
This is a lie. Brock confirmed that the storm was a test for qualification. Its purpose was to strain off the weaker trainers.

Then do explain to me why MewTwo said his storm would destroy the world.

Originally posted by Astner
The fact that Mewtwo waves his hand in a repeating pattern as the storm builds up proves that it was some form of oscillation, the fact that the waves kept steadily increasing proves that it was resonance.

We saw him twirl his hand once or twice. That isn't really a repeating pattern. And do explain how he maintains this storm without gestures, then.

Originally posted by Astner
Then why bring it up or attempt to counter the arguments?

It helps to prove MewTwo's powers.

Originally posted by Astner
No really, Mewtwo with his subhuman reactions--he didn't notice a 10 year old kid running in-between him and his foe on a stadium-sized field, in the heat of battle--would be lucky if he survived a battle with Kakashi.

A few things on this.

1. Lol. MewTwo doesn't care about Ash at that point.

2. He's focused on fighting Mew and his powers are already attached to other tasks as well.

3. He blocks electric attacks from Magneton, does he not? I don't think Naruto characters get that fast.

Originally posted by Astner
No, what you're doing is aruing from bias.

This is incorrect.