Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Not everybody at the same time. Shang Tsung can do everything Akuma can do after morphing into him and Shujinko can just LOOK at his moves and do them.
If Shang Tsung is so powerful, why couldn't he beat Shao Kahn alone.
Shujinko is dead if he sees any of Akuma's uber moves.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If Shang Tsung is so powerful, why couldn't he beat Shao Kahn alone.
We don't get to actually see how Shang Tsung or Quan Chi so anything is possible.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Shujinko is dead if he sees any of Akuma's uber moves.
That's only if Akuma can catch Shujinko.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Prove they can copy someone as powerful as Gouki.
Shujinko was given the ability to copy any attack he observes. It was never said they have to be at a certain level. The same thing goes for Shang Tsung and his morphing ability.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH1. Only we know they had to team up to fight them. Which means Shang Tsung cannot just copy all of Kahn's powers and win. He would never lose if he could just do that.
We don't get to actually see how Shang Tsung or Quan Chi so anything is possible.That's only if Akuma can catch Shujinko.
Shujinko was given the ability to copy any attack he observes. It was never said they have to be at a certain level. The same thing goes for Shang Tsung and his morphing ability.
2. ... Johnny Cage beat Shujinko. 😐
3. Gouki's Asura Senkuu allows Gouki to move really fast. It was never said to have a certain limit to its speed. So it can go faster than light.
No-Limits Fallacies are fun.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Only we know they had to team up to fight them. Which means Shang Tsung cannot just copy all of Kahn's powers and win. He would never lose if he could just do that.2. ... Johnny Cage beat Shujinko. 😐
3. Gouki's Asura Senkuu allows Gouki to move really fast. It was never said to have a certain limit to its speed. So it can go faster than light.
No-Limits Fallacies are fun.
1. Copying his moves doesn't mean he could win. If you notice, they tried to take him by surprise.
2. Well at least you cleared that up.
3. You're trying to be funny but your point is still flawed. Where was it stated that he can move at any speed chooses?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH1. But if he can copy him in his entirety, then he would be just as powerful, would he not be? Shang Tsung would be far and away the most powerful character in the series if he could just copy everyone perfectly.
1. Copying his moves doesn't mean he could win. If you notice, they tried to take him by surprise.2. Well at least you cleared that up.
3. You're trying to be funny but your point is still flawed. Where was it stated that he can move at any speed chooses?
2. Has Shujinko lost to anyone?
3. I'm as serious as Roman Polanski raping a 13 year old girl (This actually happened btw). 😐
It was never stated. Kind of like how it was never stated that Shujinko can flawlessly copy anyone perfectly.
Not to mention Gouki would annihilate Shujinko by virtue of the sheer difference in strength, speed, and durability.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
We don't get to actually see how Shang Tsung or Quan Chi so anything is possible.
Shao Kahn was the one who taught Shang Tsung all that black magic so it's obvious that Kahn has the higher advantage over the sorceror.
That's only if Akuma can catch Shujinko.
Akuma is faster than Shujinko (who has no speed feats).
Shujinko was given the ability to copy any attack he observes. It was never said they have to be at a certain level. The same thing goes for Shang Tsung and his morphing ability.
Akuma isn't going to use his entire moveset before he faces Shujinko especially since he could most of the MK cast with one punch.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. But if he can copy him in his entirety, then he would be just as powerful, would he not be? Shang Tsung would be far and away the most powerful character in the series if he could just copy everyone perfectly.2. Has Shujinko lost to anyone?
3. I'm as serious as Roman Polanski raping a 13 year old girl (This actually happened btw). 😐
It was never stated. Kind of like how it was never stated that Shujinko can flawlessly copy anyone perfectly.
Not to mention Gouki would annihilate Shujinko by virtue of the sheer difference in strength, speed, and durability.
1. Well looking at the opening of MKSM, he performed Scorpion and Kano's attacks and in MK:A, he did Ermac's telekinesis attack too and he did all of those just well. I don't see why this would be any different.
2. I don't recall.
3. It's Shujinko's special ability to copy any attack he sees so like I said, I don't see how this would be any different. Also, it was never said the Gouki can go at any speed he chooses.
Gouki really isn't all that fast. He MAY be able to dodge bullets but he can't punch or kick that fast. Strength, yes he's pretty strong. Durable? If Shujinko does what he did to Onaga, then Gouki is would be destroyed.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Shao Kahn was the one who taught Shang Tsung all that black magic so it's obvious that Kahn has the higher advantage over the sorceror.Akuma is faster than Shujinko (who has no speed feats).
Akuma isn't going to use his entire moveset before he faces Shujinko especially since he could most of the MK cast with one punch.
1. Yeah, Shao Kahn did teach Shang Tsung the arts but like I said before, copying someone's abilities doesn't mean they could win. Besides, that was a clone anyway.
2. He's only fast when it comes to reactions.
3. Sure, if Akuma's out to kill somebody, in which he's not always trying to do. And if he's not, then he will be forced to use many if his moves (of course, if he's fighting Scorpion amped by the Elder Gods, he'll HAVE to use his most lethal moves).
Or Shujinko could just absorb all the MK casts abilities and kill Akuma with just one hit.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You're right on all but one bit Sin.Just change "most of the cast" to "all of the cast" on that last bit.
I doubt Akuma's punch would even put a dent on Onaga.
Originally posted by NemeBro
You're right on all but one bit Sin.Just change "most of the cast" to "all of the cast" on that last bit.
😆 I would but Taven is most likely a full god so he might survive at least one punch.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
2. He's only fast when it comes to reactions.
Akuma has Ashura Senkuu. Shujinko barely survived against Raiden.
3. Sure, if Akuma's out to kill somebody, in which he's not always trying to do. And if he's not, then he will be forced to use many if his moves (of course, if he's fighting Scorpion amped by the Elder Gods, he'll HAVE to use his most lethal moves).
Even holding back, he's done feats that dwarf anything done in the MK franchise. Akuma duplicated Raiden's self destruct without going Shin and without killing himself. And I highly doubt he's going to use his most lethal moves against Scorpion. The zombie ninja was beat by two oni.
Or Shujinko could just absorb all the MK casts abilities and kill Akuma with just one hit.
How is he gonna kill him in one hit? By that self destruct that Raiden tried to pull off?
Akuma can destroy an island faster than that explosion caused in Deception's intro.
I doubt Akuma's punch would even put a dent on Onaga.
You doubt? Akuma split Ayers Rock, shattered an island, and destroyed a ship with his own arms or legs. A technique of his destroyed a large chunk of a forest. His version of Shoryuken can kill a man in one blow. He even trains at the bottom of Marinas trench where the pressure can crush submarines.
How is he not going to put a 3ft wide hole on a Onaga?
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
😆 I would but Taven is most likely a full god so he might survive at least one punch.
Taven can stop time when he's a half-god. Gouki's not going to be doing anything if that happens. 😐
Granted, Taven most likely cannot significantly harm Gouki if he's still a half-god.
Originally posted by Sin_VolvagiaAkuma has Ashura Senkuu. Shujinko barely survived against Raiden.
Even holding back, he's done feats that dwarf anything done in the MK franchise. Akuma duplicated Raiden's self destruct without going Shin and without killing himself. And I highly doubt he's going to use his most lethal moves against Scorpion. The zombie ninja was beat by two oni.
How is he gonna kill him in one hit? By that self destruct that Raiden tried to pull off?
Akuma can destroy an island faster than that explosion caused in Deception's intro.
You doubt? Akuma split Ayers Rock, shattered an island, and destroyed a ship with his own arms or legs. A technique of his destroyed a large chunk of a forest. His version of Shoryuken can kill a man in one blow. He even trains at the bottom of Marinas trench where the pressure can crush submarines.
How is he not going to put a 3ft wide hole on a Onaga?
1. That's speed? Also, Raiden is pretty powerful. He may have limits due to the fact that he's taken a mortal form but he's quite powerful.
2. Yeah but that was before Scorpion was amped by the Elder Gods. Also, the damage done by Akuma's explosion was not as big as Raiden's.
3. All Shujinko has to do is use all their powers in the shape of his fist and punch Akuma, ending him.
4. Looking at how durable Onaga is, I'd say Akuma would at best knock Onaga very far away but he sure isn't punching through him.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH1. That's cool and all. None of those abilities are particularly powerful either. Unless he can copy the sheer amount and potency of his Ki, and his own physical prowess, Shujinko is useless.
1. Well looking at the opening of MKSM, he performed Scorpion and Kano's attacks and in MK:A, he did Ermac's telekinesis attack too and he did all of those just well. I don't see why this would be any different.2. I don't recall.
3. It's Shujinko's special ability to copy any attack he sees so like I said, I don't see how this would be any different. Also, it was never said the Gouki can go at any speed he chooses.
Gouki really isn't all that fast. He MAY be able to dodge bullets but he can't punch or kick that fast. Strength, yes he's pretty strong. Durable? If Shujinko does what he did to Onaga, then Gouki is would be destroyed.
2. Apparently he had trouble against Raiden. Who is weak. Actually, didn't Taven beat him in Armageddon?
3. It's never said Shujinko can copy everything perfectly. 🙂 If he could, he would be literally the most powerful character in the series. Not to mention you act as if Gouki would need to use a specific technique to beat Shujinko.
He can dodge bullets, which means that none of the slow ass MK characters can even hit him except maybe Raiden by virtue of lightning. Why do you think he cannot move his whole body that fast? That's bad logic. He is strong enough to paste any single character in MK with one punch, based on feats, not what you believe.
Originally posted by Bro SMASHBecause of Raiden's weak ass explosion?
I doubt Akuma's punch would even put a dent on Onaga.
Gouki with a punch caused more destruction than Raiden's suicidal explosion. Not even counting shit like his new move in SFIV, which destroyed a large section of forest and even left friggin orbit.
Now Gouki can kill the entire MK cast in one attack.