Divide and conquer. He can use his shield to occupy some of Ocks tentacles, that way instead of having to get passed four tentacles, he will only have to worry about two, maybe three. It's all timing and battle tactics. If Cap is coming from the front and his shield from behind at the same time it lowers the effectiveness of the arms... plus whatever action Ock takes is probably the very action Cap wanted him to make in the first place.
Cap doesn't pull his punches like Spider-man either. 😄
Originally posted by srankmissingninspidey's pulled punches prob = caps full str punches, spideys leagues above him in str
Divide and conquer. He can use his shield to occupy some of Ocks tentacles, that way instead of having to get passed four tentacles, he will only have to worry about two, maybe three. It's all timing and battle tactics. If Cap is coming from the front and his shield from behind at the same time it lowers the effectiveness of the arms... plus whatever action Ock takes is probably the very action Cap wanted him to make in the first place.Cap doesn't pull his punches like Spider-man either. 😄
Yeah, Cap doesn't pull punches because he wouldn't make people's heads explode with the force of them. That's not really a valid argument.
The shield also isn't cutting straight through the tentacles, though I realize it's the stronger substance. Ock's classic tentacles are reinforced titanium, if memory serves. I'm also unsure of why everyone thinks Cap can just ricochet the shield endlessly off of tentacles. Will Otto not be fighting back, or grabbing the shield with reflexes that trump Cap's own? I have yet to see a defense of Cap that doesn't involve giving him every benefit and Otto few-to-none. That one is no different.
Originally posted by namorsubby
also, why are some acting as if Cap will KO him with a shield toss or a couple of blows when he takes hits from Spidey all the time 😕
Pete doesn't know pressure points the way Cap does. Pete hits with Brawler blows, Cap hits with Top Tier MA blows, do the frickin research 😠
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Well unlike Spiderman. Cap has this big shield that can block Ocks attacks unless Cap's just decides to dodge.
But Cap for sure can out tactic Octo in tactical combat. The Doc is no joke and can definitively give Cap major problems. I mean Cap's record against Spidey is even better then Octo's. Doesn't mean Cap would win because of that but just saying Cap is a beast in his own right.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Pete doesn't know pressure points the way Cap does. Pete hits with Brawler blows, Cap hits with Top Tier MA blows, do the frickin research 😠😛
Not just the pressure points. Cap has hurt beings with his shield that Spiderman couldn't even dream of. The shield literally makes Cap's strike like a mini Ironfist technique. Only without the dragon amp and solely backed up by the SSS.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Divide and conquer. He can use his shield to occupy some of Ocks tentacles, that way instead of having to get passed four tentacles, he will only have to worry about two, maybe three. It's all timing and battle tactics. If Cap is coming from the front and his shield from behind at the same time it lowers the effectiveness of the arms... plus whatever action Ock takes is probably the very action Cap wanted him to make in the first place.Cap doesn't pull his punches like Spider-man either. 😄
Cap is weaker than Spider-man, slower than Spider-man, and lacks the spidersense that helps faster stronger Spidey avoid the FOUR MECHANICAL arms.
Cap is cool...But he's got a knife in this gunfight.
I'd give this one to Cap since we're talking about a fight on Liberty Island. In an arena Cap would be hard pressed to get in close with all the arms(course Spidey probably would too in that scenereo) but the island provides Cap with the opportuninty to use stealth, the environment, and the tactics to his advantage.
Originally posted by darthgooberthe arms are also eyes for doc ock making surprise attacks far more difficult. Spider-man has found this out the hard way in the past. Also Ock is Spider-mans match in speed and Cap's superior due to increased mobility from his arms. Cap can't run and hide from Ock unless he's teleporting or something. He's not Batman.
I'd give this one to Cap since we're talking about a fight on Liberty Island. In an arena Cap would be hard pressed to get in close with all the arms(course Spidey probably would too in that scenereo) but the island provides Cap with the opportuninty to use stealth, the environment, and the tactics to his advantage.
Also if this is supposed to be characters at their best then ock has been portrayed to be capable of beating Spider-man and the Hulk at the same time. His arms were adamantium at the time but he wouldn't need adamantium for cap.
in comics and only in a forum fight if we allow his jobber aura to take effect.
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Originally posted by King CastleNice. Thank for the screen saver.
in comics and only in a forum fight if we allow his jobber aura to take effect.http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/31499/1302532-captain_america_05.jpg
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not just the pressure points. Cap has hurt beings with his shield that Spiderman couldn't even dream of. The shield literally makes Cap's strike like a mini Ironfist technique. Only without the dragon amp and solely backed up by the SSS.
I really hope your not implying that generally Cap+Shield > Spider's force? Not even close.
mini IF technique? So Cap could destroy like what, let's say.....1/4th of a helcarrier with a bash from the shield? LOL
Give me a break.
Originally posted by The MISTERand this is exactly why he loses this bout pretty much everytime, at least in a forum where patriotic spirit is not a legitamit amp.Cap is weaker than Spider-man, slower than Spider-man, and lacks the spidersense that helps faster stronger Spidey avoid the FOUR MECHANICAL arms.
Actually go ahead and add less durable to the list. That and he lacks spidey's web which can help occupy/deal with some of his legs better than a shield.
