Originally posted by the ninjakCap will own just about everybody one time around in his universe. Just like Batman, he gets much respect, and thus is written in godly form from time to time.
Before Ock got killed he stated that Cap considered him to be one of the best melee fighters he ever faced....then he got owned.
But really, He doesn't have spidey's durability, speed, strength, or precog which is neccessary to deal with ock. That and he can't just tie up limbs with webbing. He'd takes more hits then Spidey would, and with less durability,he would succumb. At least to a forum ock
Originally posted by chomperx9
i dont know how cap would win. the whole time he would be mainly focussing on defending himself than attacking. the speed of ottos tentacles even give spidey trouble.
Like darth and srank already said...
Stealth. Environment. Tactics.
In a straight face to face confrontation Cap would have to do some "magic" with his shield... and we all know he can do that... 😉
People are forgetting that Cap's the guy who stomped Lady Octopus and Hobby at the same time.
What people are fogetting that this is a forum match, where patriotic spirit and rep takes a backseat to logic.
Cap lacks the speed to evade, The durability to withstand, and the strength to incapacitate......that is before he is KOed himself. Spidey possesses these things, and he still doesn't always beat ock.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWwoops missed this.. but right on!
Like darth and srank already said...Stealth. Environment. Tactics.
In a straight face to face confrontation Cap would have to do some "magic" with his shield... and we all know he can do that... 😉
People are forgetting that Cap's the guy who stomped Lady Octopus and Hobby at the same time.
Originally posted by namorsubby
I really hope your not implying that generally Cap+Shield > Spider's force? Not even close.mini IF technique? So Cap could destroy like what, let's say.....1/4th of a helcarrier with a bash from the shield? LOL
Cap with his shield has KO"ed Namor clone, KO'ed real Namor(with a one shot) go through a friggin thick engine, and even made Hulk cry out in a pain.
Hell yeah his shield strikes are that lethal. Seriously you don't know much on Cap do you. No wonder a mod got on to you on about how you debate toward characters. You really don't know how.
Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap with his shield has KO"ed Namor clone, KO'ed real Namor(with a one shot) go through a friggin thick engine, and even made Hulk cry out in a pain.Hell yeah his shield strikes are that lethal. Seriously you don't know much on Cap do you.
lol, Cap with his shield does not > Spider-man blows.
You guys really need to stop with the cap worship. Spidey is class 10 for christ's sake. Now me saying his force is greater than cap with his shield is all of a sudden irrational and a sign of ignorance? Are you kidding me?
I could make a respect thread for Cap, skimming just about evry issue. Im positive I know more than you about him. Positive.
Originally posted by namorsubbyWe understand that ^ thats not the way it 'should-be' we understand that Spider-man is MANY times stronger than Cap. But what we also have to take into consideration is Caps blows stagger and Daze Spiderman. The same spiderman who is technically MANY more times mor durable to blunt force trauma then Cap. Caps shield blows bled Onslaught, staggered Hulk, floored Ironman, KO'ed Namor. Are these to be ignored then? Im suggesting nothing other than Cap blows with his shield are extemeley formidable, of the top of your head what are some of Spider-mans BEST striking feats?
lol, Cap with his shield does not > Spider-man blows.
dont matter how strong spidey is when he is facing human opponents, spidey will pull back.. cap without a shield and a punch would ko doc easy.. doc ock only has human lvl durability of a man in his shape and age that should seriously lower his ability to stand up to blunt trauma.
either way cap can pull some wins maybe not the majority but a good portion, its what he does..
Originally posted by Juk3nThose are only Cap's highest feats, not a measure of what he can do with that shield on average.
We understand that ^ thats not the way it 'should-be' we understand that Spider-man is MANY times stronger than Cap. But what we also have to take into consideration is Caps blows stagger and Daze Spiderman. The same spiderman who is technically MANY more times mor durable to blunt force trauma then Cap. Caps shield blows bled Onslaught, staggered Hulk, floored Ironman, KO'ed Namor. Are these to be ignored then? Im suggesting nothing other than Cap blows with his shield are extemeley formidable, of the top of your head what are some of Spider-mans BEST striking feats?
On average, I would say Spider-man, being class 10, can punch harder than Steve hits, even with a shield. Now I know Cap has high-end feats and I certainly don't discount them all as PIS, but is that not fair to conclude, seeing as Spidey is far stronger?