Minato Namikaze vs. Pein

So, now that we've got a fairly decent idea on Minato's abilities, how does he fare against a ninja that could have and should have beaten his son?

Round 1: Minato vs. Deva Path.

Round 2: Minato vs. 6 Paths.

Minato knows that Nagato is controlling the paths, but he must defeat Deva/6 paths. He also has a fairly decent idea of what each path can do, i.e. Deva can push or pull stuff, Animal can summon, Preta can absorb chakra based attacks, Human Path can rip one's soul through touch, Asura has weapons, & Naraka can resurrect the others.

Battle takes place in destroyed Konoha.

Minato Arisato stomps

waitwut?

OH? Lol.

Minato stomps 😐

I'd think Minato would win actually.

Minato would have to actually get close enough to Deva to put a seal on him for his FTG to work since a Kunai just gets Shinra Tensei's along with Minato. Unless Nagato doesn't get to know anything about Minato so he doesn't use Shinra Tensei and lets the kunai get close.

given his agility and speed I would say that it's possible for Minato to pull off throwing a kunai at Pein, if he can nail the five second delay thing.

either way, Minato wins both fights given his skill and combat prowess.

I would think Minato would beat Deva solidly, but as for all six paths... that I'd be less sure of. Not a stomp, at the least... he might be able to pull it off with raw speed, but having them cover each other makes it harder, and he's yet to show any really powerful offensive techniques, Rasengan being the best we've seen so far.

At the least, 6 paths would be a very good fight. Deva, he's just too well-suited for getting past the pushes.

Originally posted by Q99
I would think Minato would beat Deva solidly, but as for all six paths... that I'd be less sure of. Not a stomp, at the least... he might be able to pull it off with raw speed, but having them cover each other makes it harder, and he's yet to show any really powerful offensive techniques, Rasengan being the best we've seen so far.

At the least, 6 paths would be a very good fight. Deva, he's just too well-suited for getting past the pushes.

For the 6 Paths, Minato does have basic knowledge.
Then there's his intelligence again. He'd likely go after Naraka Path first. Though if Nagato uses his 6 Paths intelligently and with good tactics, he should be able to beat Minato IMO.

Well Minato has the advantage clearly when it comes to just Deva. While I don't think it's possible to transport a Shinra or Bansho Tensei, he would only have to get a kunai close enough to rasengan him. And he could always stop Chibaku by putting it elsewhere. He's smart enough to figure out the limit so it shouldn't be too difficult.

Now, what I would think he'd do against all 6 is try and separate them from one another and kill them quickly. A neat trick I think he could pull that Pain might not expect is killing one Path(I'd pick Animal or Petra personally because the have the most annoying abilities I think) and placing a seal on it. When Naraka goes to fix it, he's gotten a good taste of a rasengan to the face. He could also have a lot of fun with Asura Path, using his space ninjutsu shield to reflect his attacks to take out the others.

I don't think that he would "stomp" deva, though he would win. No way is he beating all 6 paths.

Why not? He could easily separe them with Hirashin, or even better, tag them all. Then when only Deva path remanis Minato just have to throw a tagged kunai, if deva didn't reflect it with shinra and just dodge it then rasengan in the face, if he does it, well, then he can get close and rasengan in the face again or just throw another one and rasengan in the face (5 second interval is huge for someone as fast as Minato plus hirashin).

A Shinra Tensei to stop a shuriken will probably end with a Shinra Tensei big enough to also hit Minato. And if Minato is hit with a move that one shots Gamabunta....Minato is out.

Why? Hirashin level 2 shows that he can teleport while he is moving/something tagged is moving in midair

He's going to teleport to his kunai, which will probably be at the end of the expanding shinra tensei?

Originally posted by Kento
Minato would have to actually get close enough to Deva to put a seal on him for his FTG to work since a Kunai just gets Shinra Tensei's along with Minato. Unless Nagato doesn't get to know anything about Minato so he doesn't use Shinra Tensei and lets the kunai get close.

We do know that the Raikage was so absurdly fast that the Sharingan had a hard time keeping up...and someone said that he was as fast as Minato, so he's more than fast enough, without his FTG technique, to beat down the Pains, imo.

Naruto was fast, for sure. I don't think he is as fast as the Raikage, in Sage mode, though.

I'd expect the Raikage to quickly take out 3-4 pains before anything significant could happen, at all, from the Pain side. Minato doesn't have the destructive power or strength that Raikage does, but he is more than deadly enough to take out at least 3 pains in a one or two seconds before the almighty push occurs. As soon as that push occurs, he can easily teleport out of it to an intelligently placed seal, and then jump right back into the mix without Pain knowing too much.

Well, that assumes that he gets to place his seals a few places, before Pain attacks.

What does the thread starter say? Seals everywhere like it was against "Madara", or only seals placed after the fight starts?

We do know that the Raikage was so absurdly fast that the Sharingan had a hard time keeping up...and someone said that he was as fast as Minato, so he's more than fast enough, without his FTG technique, to beat down the Pains, imo.

While he was fast, FTG looked faster in practice to me.

Also importantly, though, is FTG allows some tricks that Raikage's lightning speed doesn't due to being teleportation. Like if he has a kunai or seal and Deva blasts but the blast doesn't hit the kunai, he can teleport strait to the seal and avoid the push.

So Minato can pull tricks like throwing a kunai in the air over Deva, one right at Deva, and one back a ways, and if Deva does a small push, teleporting to the one that doesn't get pushed away, and the third if there's a 360 big push.

Naruto was fast, for sure. I don't think he is as fast as the Raikage, in Sage mode, though.

Probably not.

but he is more than deadly enough to take out at least 3 pains in a one or two seconds before the almighty push occurs.

I don't think it'll be that easy with them covering each other, remember the problems Sage Jiraiya had in melee. Even with his speed, they won't drop fast until he gets them on their own.

Minato is faster no doubt about that.
And as smart as he is, Minato will likely find out about the 5 sec delay.

Still, I give the win to Pein.
I know we've never seen his full potential, but it seemed to me that his Rinnegan's potential was limitless.

I thin deva pein beat minato

Aoe is exactly what you need to take this dude out

Pein wins at the end if he doesn't PIS and is at full power.

I think Minato's really overrated to be honest. The only thing he's got under his belt is the almost instantaneous hiraishin ability (It requires him to throw the tag first, so really he's only as fast the tag), and some obscure seals that don't really have any practical combat abilities. He did well against Madara because Madara sucks and only has one ability that only works one way. I might give Minato the majority here, due to his speed, but I'm a bit undecided on how well he'll deal with all of the abilities open to the 6 paths.

Minato beats Deva but ddfinitely loses to all 6.