Minato Namikaze vs. Pein

Gecko4lif

Aoe is exactly what you need to take this dude out

Since it's teleportation instead of simply fast movement, he can avoid even AoE attacks with proper timing.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I think Minato's really overrated to be honest. The only thing he's got under his belt is the almost instantaneous hiraishin ability (It requires him to throw the tag first, so really he's only as fast the tag), and some obscure seals that don't really have any practical combat abilities.

I'd say as fast as his preparation, he can place seals before he needs to get to a particular location after all. Using the space-time jutsu to relocate enemy attacks is useful too.

BUMP.

How would Minato do against a solo, Healthy Nagato?

Well, if Deva used Shinra Tensei Nagato would be weak, now my opinion:

1.Minato OWNS Deva Path.
2. Minato jumps in the air, throws a lot of his kunais surrounding the paths, then teleport to one, then to another and to another and in that process with a kunai killing all paths.

Minato can beat Nagato.

Not sure about the Paths.

Healthy Nagato would be somewhat tricky- whenever Minato ports close, he can just pulse gravity 360 and push him away.

Still, Minato's high-speed style combined with often using a kunai for a kill means that if he can lure out a pulse, then he can certainly take advantage of the recharge time.

It might take an attack run or two, but Minato'll win. While Nagato in one body is better against some foes, Namizake is not one of them, he'd be better off with the paths.

Originally posted by ichigo12
Well, if Deva used Shinra Tensei Nagato would be weak, now my opinion:

1.Minato OWNS Deva Path.
2. Minato jumps in the air, throws a lot of his kunais surrounding the paths, then teleport to one, then to another and to another and in that process with a kunai killing all paths.

Not that easy, remember how coordinated all the paths are, they just have to watch each other.

Normally Minato can jump into someone's blind spot or where they aren't expecting, but Pain has no blind spots and can be ready to counterattack him whereever he hops in.

Also, Deva path's gravity pulse can remove all the scattered kunai, which'd be super annoying.

What if Nagato's flying?
Also, I'm not sure Nagato has a 5 second lag-time for his Gravity abilities when he's using them himself, and his Preta Path ability would be annoying as well.

Multi-headed dog would also be annoying for Minato to deal with, but he does have Gamabunta. Other summons would mean Nagato's blind-spots could get covered.

That said, yeah, seeing as Minato's better suited to 1 on 1 combat if there are high level foes in question, he has better odds against a solo Nagato than he does the 6 Paths.

Naahh Minato wins, now this thread can die.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
What if Nagato's flying?
Also, I'm not sure Nagato has a 5 second lag-time for his Gravity abilities when he's using them himself, and his Preta Path ability would be annoying as well.

I think the delay is still there. At least, it wasn't shown to be gone.

One of the annoying thing is having both gravity and preta on. The former stops most physical attacks and the latter most everything else.

Yeah, I think there would be a delay, but it wouldn't be as long as 5 seconds. After all, the delay can vary, but 5 seconds was the shortest time delay for Deva Path.
As Nagato isn't just limited to ST/BT, he can do other things during that delay.

Gravity can stop ninjutsu as well. Deva's stopped a Rasenshuriken.

The force push really is an awesome ability for both defense and offense.

I think he'd beat Deva path. Any kunais landing near Deva would be blown away by almighty push, but if Minato can throw one right after he's hit or right after the pulse, he should be able to take Deva out before the recharge is complete.

He isn't beating all 6 of them.

We've already justified that Minato would win against normal Deva, but what about a different Deva, say Toon Deva...

Minato stomps all the paths. He could teleport to each one and take them out one at a time. What good is the shared vision if his attacks are instant? It will already be to late for whichever path he attacks when the other paths see it. Besides none of the other paths have shown great durability outside of the deva path. Hell, Konahamoru took one out with a weak rasengan.

Minato stomps all the paths. He could teleport to each one and take them out one at a time. What good is the shared vision if his attacks are instant?

They'll be poised to attack the space near each other, attacking the moment he arrives. Don't forget the 'using their abilities to knock away the kunai so he doesn't have them surrounded by teleport locations.

Deva's move is about as instant if it's not recharging.

I'll note with just the eyes, Deva was able to avoid Kakashi's chidori pretty easily. Asura has multiple limbs with which to strike back in a fashion similar to what Killerbee threatened, etc..

Besides none of the other paths have shown great durability outside of the deva path.

Asura certainly has. The one Konohamaru took out, (1) wasn't actually killed, just wounded, and (2) is easily the physically weakest. It's the support/healer body.

In terms of physical power, it goes Asura, Deva and Human (soul sucking), Preta, Animal and Naraka.

Human Path was able to go melee with Sage Jiriaya and block his shots.

Originally posted by Q99
They'll be poised to attack the space near each other, attacking the moment he arrives. Don't forget the 'using their abilities to knock away the kunai so he doesn't have them surrounded by teleport locations.

Deva's move is about as instant if it's not recharging.

I'll note with just the eyes, Deva was able to avoid Kakashi's chidori pretty easily. Asura has multiple limbs with which to strike back in a fashion similar to what Killerbee threatened, etc..

Asura certainly has. The one Konohamaru took out, (1) wasn't actually killed, just wounded, and (2) is easily the physically weakest. It's the support/healer body.

In terms of physical power, it goes Asura, Deva and Human (soul sucking), Preta, Animal and Naraka.

Human Path was able to go melee with Sage Jiriaya and block his shots.

he doesn't have to use Knives. He can seal the ground in various places and teleport there. Unless the paths tear up the ground, they aren't moving that. Not too mention he can teleport as the kunai is moving as well as tag them with a seal. If he could tag Tobi, he can tag the paths. he is also faster than Naruto was in sage mode so his Taijutsu should suffice and he has toads to even odds. If naruto could pull out a W, then I'm pretty sure a smarter, faster Minato with teleporting capabilities could do it.