Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I honestly do not know why I bother replying. You aren't even trying anymore. Your just posting nonsense in an attempt to drag shit out. At least at one point you were logical. Anyways...By that logic Thor's what, a cosmic entity based on his higher end feats? He outperformed the Odin Destroyer and tanked blasts from merciless Celestials. His also tanked blasts from a blood lusted Stan Lee Odin unharmed. Need something a bit more concrete.
Let's not forget that she reduced herself to mortal form. Leaving herself vulnerable. Mjolnir had enough power to one shot Korvac's girlfriend when she had inherited his power when she left herself undefended.
And, Thanos never actually tanked any attacks from what I recall. He survived one omni-directional blast that took him out. After that, I don't recall him being actually hit by any of her attacks. He blocked everything she threw at him.
And what makes you think her actual power output in mortal form was beyond Skyfather levels.
Key word incomplete. And hey, if suddenly how a character performs against beings wielding the Infinity Gauntlet has suddenly become valid, just let me know. And are you referring to Infinity War by any chance?
That's the case with a lot of beings. Thor has taken attacks from beings much more powerful than himself. Including a Thanos clone who was significantly amped. He was about to spread death across the Universe.
I don't even know if I want to justify that ridiculous reasoning witha response.
How exactly have I been tooled you moron?
Once again, don't get into arguments regarding Thor lore with me. Thor was not amped in the Exitar instance. He wrapped the belt of strength around Mjolnir hoping it would allow it to survive the process. It didn't.
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You honestly aren't trying to argue that a blast from Thanos packs more of a punch than the God Blast are you? Especially not on such flimsy evidence as Galactus being on his feet? Because that would be over the top by even my standards.
I might as well seriously argue that Thor's Cosmic level because Donald Blake defeated Molecule Man with a punch if we've reached the point where common sense has stopped having any meaning.
The God Blast had Galactus running for his life. He thought there was a chance he might die. Thanos knocked him off his feet to completely no affect as he himself admitted. Just...facepalm
And how do you know it hit him from behind? The lines formed by the waves of forces indicate to me that it came directly at him which makes sense as Galactus was last seen infront of Ego and Thor was basically on the surface of Ego.
Did you forget that: Thor was extremely weakened, that was the most weak God Blast we have ever seen, and the Juggernaut had his force field on? He was also most definitely affected. The God Blast actually pushed him back. Overpowered his main enchantment. That's more impressive display of concussive force than knocking Galactus off his feet.
Your a moron.
Jesus... some people are really dense.... You asked why I feel Thanos has skyfather durability or greater and I named said instances of skyfather or greater beings not putting him down. That is somehow confusing to you?
Odin (Peak Skyfather) - Hit Thanos with multiple blasts that one shot high heralds to no effect. He even pulled out his spear to raise the stakes and Thanos walked RIGHT THROUGH the blast.
The Maker - Why do I feel like she was beyond skyfather level of power.. ummm because that is what was stated on panel. I know you didn't forget that the BeyonderS power was rectonned to a cosmic cube.. cosmic cubes.. above skyfather. That wasn't a crazy deduction now was it Rage, I mean come on. He was hit with her initial surprise blast and survived. He backhand other blasts which means they did hit his hand and another shot he took to the chest and had no issues. That is a greater than Skyfather being of power output not putting him down
The Doppleganger - More power than Thanos... was taking multiple shots from him and never was close to going down
Magus with Incomplete IG - Took shots from Magus and never went down. That is shots from what would be abstract level being and didn't go down.
Galactus and Omega both abstract beings couldn't even get through his shields in one shot. This are beings that make Thor's power output look like a weak feeb. Again these are abstract level of power beings who couldn't even get through his shields.. let alone test his Eternal durability and yet you think a Godblast kills him? Do you try and be this stupid daily or just once in awhile? That was horrible logic and just admit Thor's Godblast wouldnt' kill Thanos with his shields up at least. If you feel without his shields it could (i disagree) but at least that is more logical.
No the shot from Thor was from behind. Post the scans to confirm as that is exactly how I remember it. Furthermore, it was a WEAKENED Galactus who was starving to death. Not to mention that he was written much weaker then than he is now. However, compare that to Thanos blast way Galactus for wait could've been miles, who was well fed and written more powerful during these times... No comparison really.....
He had his forcefield on... when did it say this? I never recal that being said.... He was initially pushed back but THEN started moving forward.
Again why are you so slow... he wrapped the belt of strength around Mjolnir so that it wouldn't break.. yet because it did that proves something to you and makes it not an amp and applicable for this battle? Are you kidding me Rage.. you make this too easy. If the belt of strength WAN'T there we can logically deduce he wouldn't be able to do what he did if it still broke with it wrapped around there. To say nothing of the fact that you're bringing up a incident where his godblast wasn't typical and in fact had an amp to help him pull out off. Thus that is invalid for this thread... jesus rage.. try a little harder next time.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Didn't Dr Doom actually survive a blast from a COMPLETE IG?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiWell it was a blast of thanos with IG but he was only using PG at the time.It looks like he delved into powers other then just PG during the battle so its possible he used more then that but for me i'd say no.No way can doom take a high powered blast from full IG.
I don't believe that is true at all. If so, are you claiming that this proves Dr. Doom is as durable as Thanos? If not, that the point of it is...?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't believe that is true at all. If so, are you claiming that this proves Dr. Doom is as durable as Thanos? If not, that the point of it is...?
My point (which may become meaningless if it turns out it really was a What If?) is that you can't really ascribe universe busting power to every blast of the IG, nor can you seriously use that as an argument that either Thanos or Doom have Universe-bust-proof durability.
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou do realize that that was IG series right?
It may have been a What If? but I do recall seeing a few scans of Dr Doom wrestling with Thanos for the IG and getting blasted away. His cloak was burned and his armor was blackened but he was fine and swearing that he'd possess the IG soon within seconds of landing.My point (which may become meaningless if it turns out it really was a What If?) is that you can't really ascribe universe busting power to every blast of the IG, nor can you seriously use that as an argument that either Thanos or Doom have Universe-bust-proof durability.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It may have been a What If? but I do recall seeing a few scans of Dr Doom wrestling with Thanos for the IG and getting blasted away. His cloak was burned and his armor was blackened but he was fine and swearing that he'd possess the IG soon within seconds of landing.My point (which may become meaningless if it turns out it really was a What If?) is that you can't really ascribe universe busting power to every blast of the IG, nor can you seriously use that as an argument that either Thanos or Doom have Universe-bust-proof durability.
It wasn't a What If.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Jesus... some people are really dense.... You asked why I feel Thanos has skyfather durability or greater and I named said instances of skyfather or greater beings not putting him down. That is somehow confusing to you?
Do you really need me to spell it out for you? A few high end feats does not make one Skyfather level durability wise and beyond. The stance is silly.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Odin (Peak Skyfather) - Hit Thanos with multiple blasts that one shot high heralds to no effect. He even pulled out his spear to raise the stakes and Thanos walked RIGHT THROUGH the blast.
A high end Thor level feat does not a Skyfather make.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The Maker - Why do I feel like she was beyond skyfather level of power.. ummm because that is what was stated on panel. I know you didn't forget that the BeyonderS power was rectonned to a cosmic cube.. cosmic cubes.. above skyfather. That wasn't a crazy deduction now was it Rage, I mean come on. He was hit with her initial surprise blast and survived. He backhand other blasts which means they did hit his hand and another shot he took to the chest and had no issues. That is a greater than Skyfather being of power output not putting him down
You need to re-read that issue. His hand was covered in his own energy and after the initial blast that left him knocked out, he never once took a direct attack from her.
So somewhere in that arc it was stated that while reducing herself to mortal form -which left her vulnerable- on top of her mindset, she has a power output of beyond Skyfather level? Even a feat or statement of power from another story for this incarnation of Beyonder will do.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The Doppleganger - More power than Thanos... was taking multiple shots from him and never was close to going down
Thor has an even more impressive feat against a copy of Thanos. Not impressed.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Magus with Incomplete IG - Took shots from Magus and never went down. That is shots from what would be abstract level being and didn't go down.
So how a character performs against beings wielding the Infinity Gauntlet have become valid in your eyes. Good to know.
Once again, are you referring to the last half of Infinity War? Because if you are, all I recall was Thanos taking one punch –and maybe a backhand- from Magus with an incomplete Infinity Gauntlet and said punch wasn’t even with the hand that wore the Gauntlet. That was impressive but nothing to write home about. I’m pretty sure Drax, Doom -and Thor to a lesser extent- have all taken attacks from an Infinity Gauntlet. I’d say more but Omega summed up why your example is worthless rather nicely:
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It may have been a What If? but I do recall seeing a few scans of Dr Doom wrestling with Thanos for the IG and getting blasted away. His cloak was burned and his armor was blackened but he was fine and swearing that he'd possess the IG soon within seconds of landing.My point (which may become meaningless if it turns out it really was a What If?) is that you can't really ascribe universe busting power to every blast of the IG, nor can you seriously use that as an argument that either Thanos or Doom have Universe-bust-proof durability.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galactus and Omega both abstract beings couldn't even get through his shields in one shot. This are beings that make Thor's power output look like a weak feeb. Again these are abstract level of power beings who couldn't even get through his shields.. let alone test his Eternal durability and yet you think a Godblast kills him? Do you try and be this stupid daily or just once in awhile? That was horrible logic and just admit Thor's Godblast wouldnt' kill Thanos with his shields up at least. If you feel without his shields it could (i disagree) but at least that is more logical.
The way you keep bringing up these two feats for his shields when I'm not even discussing them is amusing. And are those his shields on average? I'm pretty sure he was prepared for both those encounters. Scenes where Champion was about to break through his shield and when Thor did break through his shield leads me to say otherwise but I digress as I don't care.
What horrible logic? Would you care to point out where I even mentioned his shields in my previous post you moron?
By the way, they did get through his shields. In both instances.
If his shields are at the Omega/Galactus level, I don't think Thor's killing Thanos. If they are at the levels I've seen them at other instances, I don't think I'd take that stance.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
No the shot from Thor was from behind. Post the scans to confirm as that is exactly how I remember it. Furthermore, it was a WEAKENED Galactus who was starving to death. Not to mention that he was written much weaker then than he is now. However, compare that to Thanos blast way Galactus for wait could've been miles, who was well fed and written more powerful during these times... No comparison really.....
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No it wasn’t. It wouldn't even make sense for the God Blast to hit Galactus from behind. He'd have to literally turn his back to a dangerous opponent -Ego- in battle. Here are the so called scans:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsGalactus7.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsGalactus8.jpg
As you can see, the waves of Asgardian force are flowing directly towards Galactus’.
Furthermore, nowhere in the story did it say Galactus was weakened. That was from a random annual that attributed Thor's victory to calling on the power of Odin and stated the Destroyer could destroy Galactus. Something to take into account.
Galactus was always compared to Odin in power. At least in the Thor books. Silver Age Odin easily busted Galaxies and operated on a Universal scale. In the Thor books, Galactus got the respect he deserved.
When you use that kind of logic, I honestly question the sanity in continuing a discussion with you.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He had his forcefield on... when did it say this? I never recal that being said.... He was initially pushed back but THEN started moving forward.
You need to re-read the story and then come back to me.
At the very least his force field was turned on when Thor tossed his hammer. No he did not. Juggernaut was pushed back and was helpless.
Once again, so it sinks in, go re-read the issue. I’m tired of walking you through everything constantly. It’s annoying.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again why are you so slow... he wrapped the belt of strength around Mjolnir so that it wouldn't break.. yet because it did that proves something to you and makes it not an amp and applicable for this battle? Are you kidding me Rage.. you make this too easy. If the belt of strength WAN'T there we can logically deduce he wouldn't be able to do what he did if it still broke with it wrapped around there. To say nothing of the fact that you're bringing up a incident where his godblast wasn't typical and in fact had an amp to help him pull out off. Thus that is invalid for this thread... jesus rage.. try a little harder next time.
Can you please stop typing as if you were using one hand? I'm honestly tired of deciphering your posts.
So you understood that the belt of strength did not actually amp the God Blast but doubled Mjolnir's fortifications in an attempt to help it safely channel the power? That stance is dropped? Okay.
The fact that Mjolnir broke would indicate that it can't safely unleash that much power. I never argued otherwise. If Thor however can unleash a God Blast on Exitar's level is debatable. It would rely solely on whether the God Blast can be unleashed before Mjolnir is destroyed. Mjolnir being destroyed is of course going to happen for certain. I’m not debating that either.
This conversation is pointless however, Colossus stated that Thor has full use of the God Blast, and I messaged him to confirm if Thor can use his Exitar level attack. He said he can.
