Originally posted by Gecko4lifAgreed.
the step didnt do it the energy didHulk bomb was a bomb. A slow ass exploding bomb.
Let's put this whole (cracking the eastern seaboard) thing to rest.
The effects of his steps were not "physical". Kinetic energy cannot be transferred from a localized spot (footstep) all the way to the other side of a continental plate. For about 20 different reasons. And, the panels were never meant to be interpreted that way.
And he was not striking the ground, stomping, etc.
But, there WAS energy (Gamma) pouring out of him apparently and was also shown to be springing up from the fissures he was causing.
Which is still impressive, but is also too vague and never strategically used.
It is simply a side effect of what is happening, never a skill, weapon, power, etc. It bled out of him like sorrow, anger and pain.
And, it was obviously something he did NOT want happening, so it was obviously something he cannot control or utilize in a fight, especially since he never actually used THAT particular effect in a fight.
If a character has an atom bomb inside it's body, and it is leaking radiation as it comes close to exploding, that does not mean that the character has the strength and power of an atom bomb at their disposal in a fight.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
grundy's made of magic, and savage hulk did actually fight pre-crisis superman in a cross-over. it's non-canon but they perceived as being able to go toe to toe
Not quite as awesome as Batman vs Hulk, but still good fan wankage. 😄
Only downside is Hulk was got second billing to Spider Man. (He wasn't even on the cover! How messed up is that?)
That being said, I still think Hulk would probably win, but it would be a lot easier to decide if there was a clearer list of comparable powers, feats and weaknesses.
The problem with both characters is that they are written in such a manner that it is hard to really put your finger on exactly what they can do at their best. They have both been shown to be team-level-threats, but I have to say that Grundy beating down Superman is pretty heavy.
Most of Hulks (supposed wins) over Marvel Hero heavy hitters are never definitive. Rarely easy. And usually a toss-up.
But Hulk keeps telling everybody that he is the strongest guy there is, and warns us all about what he can do.
He's like a crazy, dorky kid in high school that would constantly tell other dorky kids how crazy and dangerous he is and how nobody better make him mad... 😄
Originally posted by Horrificusconsidering continuity, that's banner's influence holding the hulk back from killing everyone around him (including 90% of the heroes that could try and stop him).
He's like a crazy, dorky kid in high school that would constantly tell other dorky kids how crazy and dangerous he is and how nobody better make him mad... 😄
Originally posted by psycho gundamholding back from releasing Gamma uncontrollably due to it's connection with what he was feeling.
considering continuity, that's banner's influence holding the hulk back from killing everyone around him (including 90% of the heroes that could try and stop him).
Again, it was not a skill or attack or a usable power. It was leakage.
Where his energy was leaking out in that way, other characters have been in similar situations which would have been dire for the world as well.
And, many of us do not agree that he would be ABLE to win if he went completely rogue.
Originally posted by cdtmAlways interesting (although people tend to ignore that Savage Hulk is amping and Superman starts losing his footing). I imagine, however, that most Hulk fans would accept that portrayal... and also insist on the later Hulk vs. Superman crossover portrayal which shows Savage Hulk matching and tossing Superman... further compare Savage Hulk's power-levels with current Hulk and fairly conclude that current Hulk is healthily well beyond Superman.
Not quite as awesome as Batman vs Hulk, but still good fan wankage. 😄Only downside is Hulk was got second billing to Spider Man. (He wasn't even on the cover! How messed up is that?)
I mean... if you want to insist on crossover portrayals that is. You have to accept them all at face value if you're going to accept any of them at face value after all. Right?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Always interesting (although people tend to ignore that Savage Hulk is amping and Superman starts losing his footing). I imagine, however, that most Hulk fans would accept that portrayal... and also insist on the later Hulk vs. Superman crossover portrayal which shows Savage Hulk matching and tossing Superman... further compare Savage Hulk's power-levels with current Hulk and fairly conclude that current Hulk is healthily well beyond Superman.I mean... if you want to insist on crossover portrayals that is. You have to accept them all at face value if you're going to accept any of them at face value after all. Right?
Originally posted by abhilegendSo seriously... you were supposed to put me on ignore. You actually said so. I don't like playing hide-and-go-seek with posters. So I'm telling you straight: you are on my ignore list now. I haven't told you beforehand so whatever, but I'm telling you now.
Thor still got ktfo by superman, onesmartgo. Let it go. If DC and marvel do a crossover right now, kal would still dominate hulk. Gotta love that S-shield.
Don't bother responding to my posts because in my honest opinion you are, among other troll posters like quanchi112, etc., completely forgettable and worthless to discuss comics with.
You have the rest of KMC to talk to (so long as they haven't put you on ignore). So don't demean yourself by continuing to pay attention to my posts anymore. If you do, you need to get a new hobby. Because I don't give two sh1ts about you... and I don't give two sh1ts about anybody who I've told here that I'm ignoring.
That may be hard for certain posters to accept... but seriously... just like you, I am only one poster among hundreds. So phuck off. I've either wiped my hands of you as much as anybody possibly could, as is the sorry case of quanchi112 (after years of deconstructing his a$$, I capped it off by rebutting his hypocritical arguments with his own past quotations for an ENTIRE PAGE without him realizing it) who I've put on ignore for the better part of last year or... I simply just don't care what you think anymore.
Move on.
Originally posted by Horrificusi meant like....ever
holding back from releasing Gamma uncontrollably due to it's connection with what he was feeling.Again, it was not a skill or attack or a usable power. It was leakage.
Where his energy was leaking out in that way, other characters have been in similar situations which would have been dire for the world as well.
And, many of us do not agree that he would be ABLE to win if he went completely rogue.
banner was always limiting the hulk at some level since day one
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So seriously... you were supposed to put me on ignore. You actually said so. I don't like playing hide-and-go-seek with posters. So I'm telling you straight: you are on my ignore list now. I haven't told you beforehand so whatever, but I'm telling you now.Don't bother responding to my posts because in my honest opinion you are, among other troll posters like quanchi112, etc., completely forgettable and worthless to discuss comics with.
You have the rest of KMC to talk to (so long as they haven't put you on ignore). So don't demean yourself by continuing to pay attention to my posts anymore. If you do, you need to get a new hobby. Because I don't give two sh1ts about you... and I don't give two sh1ts about anybody who I've told here that I'm ignoring.
That may be hard for certain posters to accept... but seriously... just like you, I am only one poster among hundreds. So phuck off. I've either wiped my hands of you as much as anybody possibly could, as is the sorry case of quanchi112 (after years of deconstructing his a$$, I capped it off by rebutting his hypocritical arguments with his own past quotations for an ENTIRE PAGE without him realizing it) who I've put on ignore for the better part of last year or... I simply just don't care what you think anymore.
Move on.
Da**.