Solomon Grundy vs World War Hulk

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So seriously... you were supposed to put me on ignore. You actually said so. I don't like playing hide-and-go-seek with posters. So I'm telling you straight: you are on my ignore list now. I haven't told you beforehand so whatever, but I'm telling you now.

Don't bother responding to my posts because in my honest opinion you are, among other troll posters like quanchi112, etc., completely forgettable and worthless to discuss comics with.

You have the rest of KMC to talk to (so long as they haven't put you on ignore). So don't demean yourself by continuing to pay attention to my posts anymore. If you do, you need to get a new hobby. Because I don't give two sh1ts about you... and I don't give two sh1ts about anybody who I've told here that I'm ignoring.

That may be hard for certain posters to accept... but seriously... just like you, I am only one poster among hundreds. So phuck off. I've either wiped my hands of you as much as anybody possibly could, as is the sorry case of quanchi112 (after years of deconstructing his a$$, I capped it off by rebutting his hypocritical arguments with his own past quotations for an ENTIRE PAGE without him realizing it) who I've put on ignore for the better part of last year or... I simply just don't care what you think anymore.

Move on.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i meant like....ever

banner was always limiting the hulk at some level since day one

It obviously isn't a power that hulk can control either, if it was leaking out of him. So, maybe Banner isn't just trying to keep Hulk under control because he doesn't want to hurt people. Maybe it is also out of self preservation.

Psycho, the problem with Pak's retcon, is it still doesn't explain why Bannerless Hulk is nowhere near as powerful as his Hulk.

^ Because Bannerless Hulk had no righteous anger like Banner recently developed?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Because Bannerless Hulk had no righteous anger like Banner recently developed?

That implies Banner was never holding Hulk in check at all, though.

Without a Banner, the only thing holding Hulk in check is Hulk, and that goes against Pak's story that Banner was keeping Hulk from going too far.. (Come to think of it, it goes even further against Paks revelation that Hulk and Banner were never separate entities.. )

^ Don't agree on the former.

Don't agree on the latter either. I don't think Pak wrote that Banner held Hulk back. I think Pak wrote that Banner held himself back when he was in control.

But I'm happy to look at evidence that suggests otherwise.

Originally posted by cdtm
Psycho, the problem with Pak's retcon, is it still doesn't explain why Bannerless Hulk is nowhere near as powerful as his Hulk.

it sounds confusing but i'm pretty sure everyone on this board has been extremely mad at someone (probably a woman, an employer, or someone not physically present (and not smashing your screen)) that you can't do harm to for some particular reason, being held back and being beside yourself with anger are not mutually exclusive.

there are a couple versions of grundy that would/could take out WWH. Mostly PC and team soloing versions via brute strength. no intelligent versions come to mind though WWH 10/10

Originally posted by Uriel005
there are a couple versions of grundy that would/could take out WWH. Mostly PC and team soloing versions via brute strength. no intelligent versions come to mind though WWH 10/10

Let's look deeper into this PC phenomena. It seems that PC characters were as strong, or as weak as the story demanded, and were written with less, far less care than the characters are today. For instance Grundy didn't beat on a PC Superman that could tow planets, he beat on a PC Superman, that had trouble lifting a bus. The PC Grundy beat up mere shadows of the most powerful versions of the JSA, not the JSA under their best showings. WW Hulk which also happens to be the World Breaker, would beat Grundy so bad, that he would change the day that he was born on to Wednesday.

Originally posted by Stoic
Let's look deeper into this PC phenomena. It seems that PC characters were as strong, or as weak as the story demanded, and were written with less, far less care than the characters are today. For instance Grundy didn't beat on a PC Superman that could tow planets, he beat on a PC Superman, that had trouble lifting a bus. The PC Grundy beat up mere shadows of the most powerful versions of the JSA, not the JSA under their best showings. WW Hulk which also happens to be the World Breaker, would beat Grundy so bad, that he would change the day that he was born on to Wednesday.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That can apply to any character. Black panther armbars surfer means surfer was at human level, right?

Originally posted by Muhare ehoeho
Ahahaha Badabing is so butthurt after my insults about his mother that he sits here 24/7 now just to ban me, i just joined yesturday and got banned right away that guy is sitting and thinking "i will avenge you mama i swear" bwahahahahahahahaha 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has a point if the writer who handles the grundy story doesn't have him at those levels then his point is valid.

Depends on the story...

But the one where it was claimed Grundy absorbed Dr. Fate and Alan Scotts magic and he tore through the JSA and JLA including Superman didn't have Superman struggling to lift a bus, so he must be referring to another example....

And the JSA seemed normal to me.. No overt low end showings. Grundy simply had a really high one, including tearing out of Hal Jordans shield like it's tissue paper, and tanking Supermans best attacks... (And this Superman displayed a speed feat of breaking the dimensional barrier between Earth 1 and Earth 2 via vibration..)

You wouldn't like it if someone claimed the Odin that Thanos matched isn't the same Odin that wrecked galaxies, would you, or that Thanos was being seriously underwritten, and so the feat isn't impressive for Thanos? That's basically his argument against Grundy tearing apart the JSA and Superman.

Edited: Wait, was the "he" Jake?

I was talking about Stoic, for the record. ^_^

Hulk wins.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So seriously... you were supposed to put me on ignore. You actually said so. I don't like playing hide-and-go-seek with posters. So I'm telling you straight: you are on my ignore list now. I haven't told you beforehand so whatever, but I'm telling you now.

Don't bother responding to my posts because in my honest opinion you are, among other troll posters like quanchi112, etc., completely forgettable and worthless to discuss comics with.

You have the rest of KMC to talk to (so long as they haven't put you on ignore). So don't demean yourself by continuing to pay attention to my posts anymore. If you do, you need to get a new hobby. Because I don't give two sh1ts about you... and I don't give two sh1ts about anybody who I've told here that I'm ignoring.

That may be hard for certain posters to accept... but seriously... just like you, I am only one poster among hundreds. So phuck off. I've either wiped my hands of you as much as anybody possibly could, as is the sorry case of quanchi112 (after years of deconstructing his a$$, I capped it off by rebutting his hypocritical arguments with his own past quotations for an ENTIRE PAGE without him realizing it) who I've put on ignore for the better part of last year or... I simply just don't care what you think anymore.

Move on.

Haha, I remember that thread. Quanchi argued with himself for an entire page, f*cking classic.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wins.

Haha, I remember that thread. Quanchi argued with himself for an entire page, f*cking classic.

😂 Link?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wins.

Haha, I remember that thread. Quanchi argued with himself for an entire page, f*cking classic.

I remember that as well. It was against OneDumb. Classic.

Sorry fellas, I don't remember what thread it was in, ask ODG. Wish I had bookmarked it, shit was gold.

Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on the story...

But the one where it was claimed Grundy absorbed Dr. Fate and Alan Scotts magic and he tore through the JSA and JLA including Superman didn't have Superman struggling to lift a bus, so he must be referring to another example....

And the JSA seemed normal to me.. No overt low end showings. Grundy simply had a really high one, including tearing out of Hal Jordans shield like it's tissue paper, and tanking Supermans best attacks... (And this Superman displayed a speed feat of breaking the dimensional barrier between Earth 1 and Earth 2 via vibration..)

You wouldn't like it if someone claimed the Odin that Thanos matched isn't the same Odin that wrecked galaxies, would you, or that Thanos was being seriously underwritten, and so the feat isn't impressive for Thanos? That's basically his argument against Grundy tearing apart the JSA and Superman.

Edited: Wait, was the "he" Jake?

I was talking about Stoic, for the record. ^_^

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk wins.

Haha, I remember that thread. Quanchi argued with himself for an entire page, f*cking classic.

WWH FTW

Originally posted by cdtm
Depends on the story...

But the one where it was claimed Grundy absorbed Dr. Fate and Alan Scotts magic and he tore through the JSA and JLA including Superman didn't have Superman struggling to lift a bus, so he must be referring to another example....

And the JSA seemed normal to me.. No overt low end showings. Grundy simply had a really high one, including tearing out of Hal Jordans shield like it's tissue paper, and tanking Supermans best attacks... (And this Superman displayed a speed feat of breaking the dimensional barrier between Earth 1 and Earth 2 via vibration..)

You wouldn't like it if someone claimed the Odin that Thanos matched isn't the same Odin that wrecked galaxies, would you, or that Thanos was being seriously underwritten, and so the feat isn't impressive for Thanos? That's basically his argument against Grundy tearing apart the JSA and Superman.

Edited: Wait, was the "he" Jake?

I was talking about Stoic, for the record. ^_^

OH, I didn't realize that that was Grundy at his best. The Grundy that you are speaking of had an outside amplification. Should we count this as what Grundy is capable of under his own power? Not to back down from that version of Grundy by any means, but proving that even super-amplified on Fate juice, he might still not have the power to defeat the Hulk when he was in the Dark Dimension. I wouldn't want to try proving it, but by all means go for it.