FrankenCastle vs. Wolverine

Started by Deadline12 pages
Originally posted by Creshosk
It's still a logical fallacy to make a claim and then demand that others disprove it. When you make a claim you have to prove it.

Yes I know but you do it yourself sometimes, thats my point.

Originally posted by Creshosk

How did you know about that name?

Typo.

Originally posted by Creshosk

"Heat Residue"? Do you want me to explain how thermal energy works?

The bullets are hot, the eyesockets are near the brain, heat can pass through the eyesocket and enter brain. I don't think you're going to prove that can't happen this time.

Oh and bits can break off the bullet as well are you going to explain to me the molecular structure of metal next?

Originally posted by Deadline
Yes I know but you do it yourself sometimes, thats my point.
Et tu fallacy.

Originally posted by Deadline
Typo.
Ah. It's not a bad one really, Crash is an acceptable nick.

Originally posted by Deadline
The bullets are hot, the eyesockets are near the brain, heat can pass through the eyesocket and enter brain. I don't think you're going to prove that can't happen this time.
Except that it'd have to burn through the other matter in the way, namely the nerve itself, which would probably use up the thermal energy.

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh and bits can break off the bullet as well are you going to explain to me the molecular structure of metal next?
Actually it'd be the physics on things breaking in the first place. With the bullet being heated its less likely to break and more likely to bend.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You have scans of this situation?

Here.


To me it honestly doesnt look like he was about to faint. Deadpool's comment also suggests that they fought, also Frank just tossed Morbius aside (who is superhuman btw) with zero efforts.

Originally posted by SamZED
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It honestly doesnt look like he was about to faint to me. Deadpool's comment also suggests that they fought, also Frank just tossed Morbius aside (who is a superhuman btw) with zero efforts.

ok:
all Deadpool had left were katana's
there are no cuts or slices, or even blood on franks body
this would mean that deadpool's katana's didn't put frank down
leaving deadpools fists
blunt force trauma has been ineffectual against frank
if he had been knocked out, giving him his pills should've done nothing, against heelsgard his pills were shown to have no healing properties
frank is on the table clearly braindead, from lack of pills
which when given he is 100%

what does all of this mean?
deadpool had nothing to do with frank passing out.

Originally posted by Trackz
ok:
all Deadpool had left were katana's
there are no cuts or slices, or even blood on franks body
this would mean that deadpool's katana's didn't put frank down
leaving deadpools fists
blunt force trauma has been ineffectual against frank
if he had been knocked out, giving him his pills should've done nothing, against heelsgard his pills were shown to have no healing properties
frank is on the table clearly braindead, from lack of pills
which when given he is 100%

what does all of this mean?
deadpool had nothing to do with frank passing out.


You got all that from Frank not having cuts?
Frank shows no signs of burnt skin either, does that mean he wasnt hit with the flamethrower? Or maybe its just artist? You're looking too much into this. Deadpool's costume was torn apart but it "healed " on the next page, so what?
The scenario you gave is just too unlikely to happen.

Frank isn't knocked out, he's immobilised. Deadpool simply knocked him on the table and pinned him down with katanas. THAT's what the scans clearly show. It's not hard to believe that Deadpool can hit hard enough to knock Frank on the ground or table, he's put Goliath on his ass with a punch. Seriously, nothing suggests that Frank just passed out. The art and Deadpool's comment suggest that they fought and Deadpool pinned him down before force-feeding him the pills.

Originally posted by SamZED
You got all that from Frank not having cuts?
Frank shows no signs of burnt skin either, does that mean he wasnt hit with the flamethrower? Or maybe its just artist? You're looking too much into this. Deadpool's costume was torn apart but it "healed " on the next page, so what?
The scenario you gave is just too unlikely to happen.

Frank isn't knocked out, he's immobilised. Deadpool simply knocked him on the table and pinned him down with katanas. THAT's what the scans clearly show. It's not hard to believe that Deadpool can hit hard enough to knock Frank on the ground or table, he's put Goliath on his ass with a punch. Seriously, nothing suggests that Frank just passed out. The art and Deadpool's comment suggest that they fought and Deadpool pinned him down before force-feeding him the pills.

have you read frankencastle? frank has the strength to tear through brickwalls and rip people in half, and you believe he's being restrained by the katanas? He's staring blankly into space with his mouth agape, and you think he's not braindead?

it's clear frank went braindead, deadpool survived frank, he didn't beat him.

Originally posted by Trackz
have you read frankencastle? frank has the strength to tear through brickwalls and rip people in half, and you believe he's being restrained by the katanas? He's staring blankly into space with his mouth agape, and you think he's not braindead?

it's clear frank went braindead, deadpool survived frank, he didn't beat him.

Deadpool has the strength to tear through brickwalls, so does Wolverine. Tearing through people is something Elektra has done on several occasions. Granted Frank is stronger than them but that doesnt mean he cant be restrained with katanas. He's not braindead, he just can't move. Why would Deadpool even need to pin him down if he was out and uncouncious? That doesnt make sense. Man, I just dont know what other arguments to bring here. The scans clearly suggest that they fought and Deadpool won. Ask 20 other members what they see from the scans and they'll tell you the exact same thing. I dont see a reason to argue on this any further, just want to point out that using this fight as an argument that Frank would beat Wolverine isn't a good idea.

Originally posted by SamZED
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To me it honestly doesnt look like he was about to faint. Deadpool's comment also suggests that they fought, also Frank just tossed Morbius aside (who is superhuman btw) with zero efforts.

What exactly are you guys debating?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
What exactly are you guys debating?

The fight. The final part happened off-panel.
I say that they fought and Deadpool pinned Frank down.
Trackz says they didn't fight. And that he's pinned because when Frank charged at Deadpool he just lost counciousness all by himself and Deadpool had nothing to do with pinning him down. I disagree because I find it very unlikely.

It's hard to say. Frank looked to be feeling the effects of something judging by his speech.

I posted the pages in order. The second scan comes right after the first one in the book. I really think if the writer meant for Frank to just faint there'd be some kind of hint. But what we have is Frank charging at Deadpool while tossing superhumans aside with zero efforts before getting pinned. IMO that and Deadpool's comments on the second scan suggest that they fought, besides Frank isn't uncouncious at all. He's immobilised.

On-topic, Im gonna have to wait and see more from upgraded Frank before I make up my mind on how many wins he takes against Wolverine.

Frank may have had all of his strength but he didn't appear to have all of his marbels at that moment.

True, but Deadpool wasn't in his best shape either because of the pills.

Originally posted by SamZED
True, but Deadpool wasn't in his best shape either because of the pills.
Was it the pills or getting tossed through a building?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Was it the pills or getting tossed through a building?
Nevermind, it was the pills.

This appears to be a non-fight if you ask me.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Frank may have had all of his strength but he didn't appear to have all of his marbels at that moment.

Why whats up with Frank being all crazy and idk seemed like he was acting like a monster. Because he needed the pills to be sane?

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Why whats up with Frank being all crazy and idk seemed like he was acting like a monster. Because he needed the pills to be sane?
Suppose to keep him calm iirc.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Et tu fallacy.

Ah. It's not a bad one really, Crash is an acceptable nick.

*YAWN*

Originally posted by Creshosk

Except that it'd have to burn through the other matter in the way, namely the nerve itself, which would probably use up the thermal energy.

I think you're saying what I said in the first place ie part of the brain would get burnt. Also the force of the impact from the bullet would travel through the eyeholes and damage the brain as well.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Actually it'd be the physics on things breaking in the first place. With the bullet being heated its less likely to break and more likely to bend.

You actually don't know that for sure and you still said it would do what I said it would.

Its travelling at several hundred miles per hour and it hits an indestructible object theres still a decent chance something will break off.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I was surprised Daken couldn't heal his arms mid-fight.

You were surprised? Really? Way writes HFs like this. And actually he did heal them (not completely, but enough to try to attack Frank on that "don't cry" page).

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You were surprised? Really? Way writes HFs like this. And actually he did heal them (not completely, but enough to try to attack Frank on that "don't cry" page).
so you're blaming the writer? 🙄