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Originally posted by Robtard
What a bunch of retards.
Do the vampires the have souls? Probably not, as they're undead. So the Penance Stare won't work.
Though some fruit-cake guy like DDM who watches the Twilight films with his wife could probably give details if they have souls or no.

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Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by Robtard
What a bunch of retards.
Do the vampires the have souls? Probably not, as they're undead. So the Penance Stare won't work.
Though some fruit-cake guy like DDM who watches the Twilight films with his wife could probably give details if they have souls or no.

Carlisle thinks they do, Edward doesn't.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Its kind of funny how people either love twilight too much or just hate it with a fiery passion. Why cant people just be indifferent to some things.

Kazenji Onyx Prime

Originally posted by Tron

And it's Johnny Blaze.

Daniel Ketch

the ninjak FRINGE Division

TwiVamps are all guilty of murder. The Penance Stare would crumble the punks.....all of them.

He simply beats the crap out of the WolfPack.

Voltori die faster than the Cullens do.....guilty by nature.

Vengeance will be served!

omgchos The Man From Ireland

It's not only about guilt, in point of fact. It's about the soul. Blackheart killed quite a few people, but the stare didn't work the first time. It only worked when he became legion with all those souls in him.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

That's why I had him fight the WolfPack.

The Voltori wont handle the stare.

The Cullens regardless of their newfound lifestyle still murdered people at some stage for food. Not self Defence just out of hunger and in some cases Vengeance.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Guess u don't realize that u HAVE to have a soul for the penance stare to work...... vampire lore is pretty specific on that point, about them not having any souls. Therefore the stare is not an option here.

XanatosForever Steward of RP

chos, the fact you tried to use vampire lore and "Twilight" in the same idea is failure. Everything about Twilight shits on vampire lore.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Originally posted by omgchos
Guess u don't realize that u HAVE to have a soul for the penance stare to work...... vampire lore is pretty specific on that point, about them not having any souls. Therefore the stare is not an option here.

TwiVamps aren't vampires they are more like Golems whose physiology is so condensed that they have incredible reflexes, strength and durability. Blood is needed to keep their bodies from drying up.

They have souls it's just that their hunger makes them feel like they don't have one.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by XanatosForever
chos, the fact you tried to use vampire lore and "Twilight" in the same idea is failure. Everything about Twilight shits on vampire lore.

The fact that you hate something this much is a failure. I mean this kinda sounds like back when all the harry potter vs. forums were going around. All those guys would argue against HP simply because they hated. And got all snippy when someone seems to back the side your up against. All i was pointing out is that he keeps saying because they killed somebody that means his penance stare is just gonna own em all. And btw do you know how much vampire lore their is? Cuz most vampire lore shits on itself. There are more different types of Vamps in the world than there are religions. But as i was saying........ pretty much all of them say no soul.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by the ninjak
TwiVamps aren't vampires they are more like Golems whose biology is so condensed that they have incredible reflexes, strength and durability. Blood is needed to keep their bodies from drying up.
They have souls it's just that their hunger makes them feel like they don't have one.

So you wrote the books, and the screenplay fo the movies, eh?

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Originally posted by omgchos
So you wrote the books, and the screenplay fo the movies, eh?

They love, they hate, they fear and they make jokes. That psychic one is full of soul and humour.

The only people in the films who say they are souless are the wolfpack and their victims.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by the ninjak
They love, they hate, they fear and they make jokes. That psychic one is full of soul and humour.
The only people in the films who say they are souless are the wolfpack and their victims.

And all the vampires think so too. In fact its a point of contention between the romantic interests of the film. Because she wants to be a vampire but he says he doesn't want to take her soul away.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by the ninjak
They love, they hate, they fear and they make jokes. That psychic one is full of soul and humour.
The only people in the films who say they are souless are the wolfpack and their victims.

And, um, Edward.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Originally posted by Placidity
And, um, Edward.

Edward is just playing emo to get some ass!

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by the ninjak
Edward is just playing emo to get some ass!

Ninjak is just insulting twilight cuz he jumped on the bandwagon. I hate bandwagons. Get ur own opinions.

the ninjak FRINGE Division

Originally posted by omgchos
Ninjak is just insulting twilight cuz he jumped on the bandwagon. I hate bandwagons. Get ur own opinions.

How am I insulting it. Edward is infatuated with this girl....but in order to have her she has to become like him. Which he doesn't want because it will turn her into a powerful hungry predator. Which could be seen as being souless. But you wouldn't call a lion souless.

And what the hell are you talking about getting my own opinions I haven't changed any. And I've never read the books I just call it as I see it.

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by the ninjak
How am I insulting it. Edward is infatuated with this girl....but in order to have her she has to become like him. Which he doesn't want because it will turn her into a powerful hungry predator. Which could be seen as being souless. But you wouldn't call a lion souless.

Actually he doesn't want to turn her because he doesn't believe vampires have souls. He and Carlisle discussed this in the book and its very clear they were talking about souls in the literal/spiritual/religious sense.

omgchos The Man From Ireland

Originally posted by the ninjak
How am I insulting it. Edward is infatuated with this girl....but in order to have her she has to become like him. Which he doesn't want because it will turn her into a powerful hungry predator. Which could be seen as being souless. But you wouldn't call a lion souless.
And what the hell are you talking about getting my own opinions I haven't changed any.

Changed any what? And you keep dancing around this soulless is just an opinion thing. U went from "it's only the wolf pack and their victims" to "Edward only thinks so cuz shes gonna eat ppl now". Which means you either didn't wanna mention it the first time, or you formed some type of bias opinion cuz you think ghost rider should beat the twi vamps. Lets put it this way, ghost rider has alot more powers than the penance stare, which would require him to stare into their eyes for a second or two.... close up. We know these twivamps can move at super-fast speeds. So i dont see how the penance stare even enters your mind in this argument.
Not only are they soulless but its obsolete in this fight.