Giant Baby Bowser & Yoshi vs. Kain & Dante.

Started by Sin_Volvagia13 pages
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
33 terrajoules. Netiher Dante or Kain could dream of reproducing that. 😐

They can produce far more damage than a Yoshi egg which failed to kill a giant turtle that's smaller than Beowulf, a fat bird, a small metal spike guy, and various enemies in the game with a single shot. In fact, it doesn't even kill a Shy Guy directly. Dante is gonna laugh them off and Kain can easily turn to mist.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Alright, if Sin is going to throw around accusations of fan fiction, I'm going actually use some fan fiction. Why make him a liar?

YouTube video

As we can see in this video Yoshi can take a beating larger than anything Dante and Kain can produce. Yoshi solos Dante and Kain on his own.

😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by ScreamPaste

Bowser would solo the DMCverse, as he can, y'know, survive inside a [b]black hole.
😐 Nothing would hurt him. [/B]

Solo the DMCverse? 😆 That's a good one. Bowser was harmed by Mario's fists in the same game you claimed that he survived a black hole. He's not getting past Lady let alone any of the demon bosses. Nightmare alone would solo the whole non-RPG Marioverse.

Marioverse physics, are, and this is OSSIM, actually MORE accurate to IRL than DMC physics. 🙂

Because bullets moving slower than running men, turtles sliding endlessly, and Luigi's gravity-defying jumps are more realistic than anything in DMC 🙄

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
They can produce far more damage than a Yoshi egg which failed to kill a giant turtle that's smaller than Beowulf, a fat bird, a small metal spike guy, and various enemies in the game with a single shot. In fact, it doesn't even kill a Shy Guy directly. Dante is gonna laugh them off and Kain can easily turn to mist.

Giant Baby Bowser is smaller than Beowulf?
Now you're just making shit up.

Bloodrain's estimate of 90 meters alone puts GBB at roughly 15 times the height of Beowulf, who is at best 20 feet.

Don't laugh at me Sin, I made sure you told the truth, for once.

And no, Bowser was not harmed at all. His walking is the same as dizziness, which is from being spun around a planet the whole fight. He was not harmed at all.

ok so if Mario pwns Bowser than can Mario beat up Dante?313

Mario basically just BFR'd Bowser.

And theoretically Mario does have the strength. Castle lifting ftw.

Originally posted by BloodRain
The egg travels 366km/s. GBB is apparently a km away. The eggs take a second to reach him. Problem.

Abiding by physics in a '95 Mario game.

Ok lets look at it another way. From an elevated standpoint like from where they are GBB wouldn't have to move far back to appear the size he does. Can try with random objects.

Next is steps. The distance GBB is knocked back is like 6 steps. 1 step for his size would be 1/4 his height. 1 step is 23m~, 6 is 140m~. 140m in 2 secs, 70m/s.

The scene is broken physics wise :/ Different points contradict each other.

Apparent;y a KM away? Where was that said?

A worthless point since GBB is taller than his own castle, much more than 90m. Which means he moves back over a KM when you hit him.

Those aren't steps, he's being pushed and reeling backward from the force of the egg.

In order for an egg, even if it weighed a ton, to puish GBB back as quickly as it did, it would STILL be moving much too fast for Dante to dream of dodging. This is fact.

just now thought about making a Mario vs Dante thread...it should be good313

Originally posted by XMr. WinterX
just now thought about making a Mario vs Dante thread...it should be good313
Want a really good one? Make Luigi with the Chaos Heart v.s. Dante. 😄

already made the poll

Currently Mario leads the vote 4-1, and no one's supported Dante.

link-rape

its 5-4 with Dante in the lead

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Apparent;y a KM away? Where was that said?

A worthless point since GBB is taller than his own castle, much more than 90m. Which means he moves back over a KM when you hit him.

Those aren't steps, he's being pushed and reeling backward from the force of the egg.

In order for an egg, even if it weighed a ton, to puish GBB back as quickly as it did, it would STILL be moving much too fast for Dante to dream of dodging. This is fact.

Measuring from the eggs makes him 90. But is apparently taller then the castle, which through the level is either 1 [unlikely] or 3 floors. And the mini pic on the map shows it as 3 floors and the rocky part that's the equivalent of 2 floors. Making them 50m up. Kinda matching a 90m tall GBB. `-` Or the 20m Fir trees in the distance. Or that moon being 5m wide o-o or so ive heard. The scene contradicts and isn't accurate to itself. Especially distance.

No no I meant the distance he travels back is the same as 6 steps. Stride and body type makes him move forward 20m a normal step, like half that for those short/fast steps. He'd have to be knocked back the distance of 50 normal steps to make a km.
By that he's 400m~ at the start where it takes the egg 3~ seconds to reach. Ma0.5. Another issue, but another that points to a realistic speed.

I know you're aware a projectile moving at the speed you want wouldn't curve. Well, not on an Earth-like planet, even if the gravity was like 30x stronger it would probably only end up circling the planet.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Measuring from the eggs makes him 90. But is apparently taller then the castle, which through the level is either 1 [unlikely] or 3 floors. And the mini pic on the map shows it as 3 floors and the rocky part that's the equivalent of 2 floors. Making them 50m up. Kinda matching a 90m tall GBB. `-` Or the 20m Fir trees in the distance. Or that moon being 5m wide o-o or so ive heard. The scene contradicts and isn't accurate to itself. Especially distance.

No no I meant the distance he travels back is the same as 6 steps. Stride and body type makes him move forward 20m a normal step, like half that for those short/fast steps. He'd have to be knocked back the distance of 50 normal steps to make a km.
By that he's 400m~ at the start where it takes the egg 3~ seconds to reach. Ma0.5. Another issue, but another that points to a realistic speed.

I know you're aware a projectile moving at the speed you want wouldn't curve. Well, not on an Earth-like planet, even if the gravity was like 30x stronger it would probably only end up circling the planet.

mariofacepalm

K, I explained why measuring from the egss is flawed.
1. Eggs disappear before getting to him.
2. Yoshi is taller than adult Mario making the eggs over 1.5 meters.

GBB is pushed back to the horizon line explain to me how that equates to less than a KM? ect, yadda yadda yadda. And fine, I'll make the numbers even more impossibly small.

K, if GBB takes 6 25 meter steps backwards, he'd be moving about 75 m/s, the force it takes to move an 80m sphere of water that fast is enough to...

make a 500kg egg move 54km/s. Yep. No matter how much you downplay this feat, Dante cannot harm GBB, or dodge an egg thrown by Yoshi.

Eggs disappear in place of the hitting flash.
Explain why there are Fir trees on the horizon, or how by the max number of steps he goes back to where he's practically on the horizon is <500m away? Like I said, the scene contradicts itself.

And thus the egg took 3 seconds instead of 0.008 to travel 400m and instead of being shot into space started to curve on launch.. the laws are working wonders here.
Its not downplaying, more like being realistic to the event given the scene.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Eggs disappear in place of the hitting flash.
Explain why there are Fir trees on the horizon, or how by the max number of steps he goes back to where he's practically on the horizon is <500m away? Like I said, the scene contradicts itself.

And thus the egg took 3 seconds instead of 0.008 to travel 400m and instead of being shot into space started to curve on launch.. the laws are working wonders here.
Its not downplaying, more like being realistic to the event given the scene.

Both of those are by your estimation. < 500 m away? lolwut. I suppose Sonic's less than an inch tall because there's huge mushrooms in Sonic & Knuckles?

And nah, it's willfully searching for anything you can cling onto to ignore the fact that for the egg to do what it does, it has to be travelling faster than Dante can react, period. 😐

Nah we know Sonic's height and that there are giant mushrooms there. And the trees in the background aren't where I got that number from... actually I said where the number is from in the same sentence 😐 40 steps away and he's at the position he appeared at, which is not that far from the trees, hence the +100m.

Trying to search for things to cling to? Yeah that's why I said 'Just saying scale [among other things] isn't the best thing there.' in my first post. Was against this kind of method from the get go.
Lets look at this another way;
-The speeds I say fit nicely to what we can see. The speeds you say go against Laws and would leave the planet, not curve and a new one- would be destroyed at that speed if its weak enough to break when it hits a tough, fleshy hide.
-The distance I say is based on the only measuring device, 'GBB' and his steps to get a number, that also match the tree's just to add. The distance you say is based off assuming it is because it is.
^Points via points. Only one side is realistic and matches up.

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Ma1000 throws: Yoshi apparently kills Dante and before he gets a new egg Kain kills or shackles him then goes on to take down GBB. A win either way.

My numbers, Dante and Kain.
Your numbers, Dante and Kain.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Nah we know Sonic's height and that there are giant mushrooms there. And the trees in the background aren't where I got that number from... actually I said where the number is from in the same sentence 😐 40 steps away and he's at the position he appeared at, which is not that far from the trees, hence the +100m.

Trying to search for things to cling to? Yeah that's why I said 'Just saying scale [among other things] isn't the best thing there.' in my first post. Was against this kind of method from the get go.
Lets look at this another way;
-The speeds I say fit nicely to what we can see. The speeds you say go against Laws and would leave the planet, not curve and a new one- would be destroyed at that speed if its weak enough to break when it hits a tough, fleshy hide.
-The distance I say is based on the only measuring device, 'GBB' and his steps to get a number, that also match the tree's just to add. The distance you say is based off assuming it is because it is.
^Points via points. Only one side is realistic and matches up.

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Ma1000 throws: Yoshi apparently kills Dante and before he gets a new egg Kain kills or shackles him then goes on to take down GBB. A win either way.

My numbers, Dante and Kain.
Your numbers, Dante and Kain.

Negatory, Bowser can survive in a black hole, anything colliding with him at that kind of speed will break, this is not surprising.
The distance you suggest is inherently flawed.
The speeds I'm telling you break no laws. 54km/s, the lowest possible speed, Yoshi's egg knocked Bowser's massive weight back. Period. This is impossible unless the egg is insanely hefty, or insanely fast. Currently I'm using the weight of the egg being around a short ton, 500kg, so, plx come up with an explanation within the boundaries of physics and logic that doesn't amount to you trying t o use the size of an egg which disappears before it hits GBB to say he's only 90m tall when the egg in question is about 5 feet in diameter anyway.

Neither Dante or Kain have ANY method of harming GBB, 😐 who has TK, and neither cna avoid or survive a Yoshi egg.

All numbers --> GBB & Yoshi.

In Mario galaxy (assuming this is where its from), is anything actually seen crushed down inside the blackhole or turned into energy etc?

Both of them can avoid and harm the others. And if not, kain makes sure they kill eachother.

Just like how lava kills him and punches knock him out?

Oh yeah? Pray tell, because the footsteps is the only way to get a figure.
A Ma160 projectile would not make a visible curve off its path let alone the arc shown. A Ma160 projectile would leave the planet. No matter how durable you think Bowser is he still has a fleshy hide, one that said projectile shatters on where the compression and friction at that speed did not. Is 5' away another assumption? Eggs are larger then the nostril, setting it as 1m takes away all concerns.

Now thats either not TK, like all others have said, or its a very poor display of use and aiming. Both the same thing in the end, no TK or obvious miss.

Don't think Lava has ever killed him actually, he's in like every damn castle, right?