Well that in itself wasn't a reveal here. It was known for a while.
What we got in this chapter was Ogata being a magnificent bastard trying to get Tanaka to turn to ze dark side which is actually the most natural story progression for the character at this point.
And Akisame revealed to us stuff that wasn't known before but the stuff we are not privy to in this chapter is a game changer for Tanaka's character.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
What we got in this chapter was Ogata being a magnificent bastard trying to get Tanaka to turn to ze dark side which is actually the most natural story progression for the character at this point.
lol, no. That was not magnificent. It is a B-level trope. "Yes, give into your hate! RAWR!" laaaame
Originally posted by AuraAngel
And Akisame revealed to us stuff that wasn't known before but the stuff we are not privy to in this chapter is a game changer for Tanaka's character.
That Tanaka was on a path for revenge? Yeah...not a reveal since we already knew about that since the fight was actually taking place.
However, had that scene occured like....40 chapters ago and Akisame said, "...revenge against that guy", that would have been more fun and entertaining. That would have been better writing.
Originally posted by dadudemon
lol, no. That was not magnificent. It is a B-level trope. "Yes, give into your hate! RAWR!" laaaameThat Tanaka was on a path for revenge? Yeah...not a reveal since we already knew about that since the fight was actually taking place.
However, had that scene occured like....40 chapters ago and Akisame said, "...revenge against that guy", that would have been more fun and entertaining. That would have been better writing.
Magnificent Bastards are the ones who usually invoke said B-level trope. But what matters is the execution and here it is done fairly well.
No.
http://www.mangapanda.com/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/520/12
There was another disciple there(we did not know this before) and there is more going on than we the audience know. And it apparently is something big because the Elder saw fit to keep it a secret.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Am I the only one annoyed by the power jump? Dude goes from being a solid expert class to a master class that is able to make Ogata use some form of effort.
To be fair the guy has been offscreen for a while training precisely for this.
That and it wouldn't be fun watching Ogata kick the shit out of the guy.
Which really Ogata is kinda disappointing me from a purely fighting standpoint. I'm annoyed that Kenichi and Odin actually did manage to touch him.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Magnificent Bastards are the ones who usually invoke said B-level trope. But what matters is the execution and here it is done fairly well.
Whatever you're talking about, I am not. It was not executed very well, at all. Again, it was laaaaame.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
No.http://www.mangapanda.com/historys-strongest-disciple-kenichi/520/12
There was another disciple there(we did not know this before) and there is more going on than we the audience know. And it apparently is something big because the Elder saw fit to keep it a secret.
There is nothing more going on and there was no big reveal regarding this conversation. I'll help you: it was regarding Tanaka. Tanaka should not try to attack Kensei because Kensei is both stronger and wants to make Tanaka become bad. No reveals, there.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
I'm annoyed that Kenichi and Odin actually did manage to touch him.
Both of them are supposed to be nicely into Expert Class. If enough experts attack a master, they should be able to land a hit.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Whatever you're talking about, I am not. It was not executed very well, at all. Again, it was laaaaame.There is nothing more going on and there was no big reveal regarding this conversation. I'll help you: it was regarding Tanaka. Tanaka should not try to attack Kensei because Kensei is both stronger and wants to make Tanaka become bad. No reveals, there.
Both of them are supposed to be nicely into Expert Class. If enough experts attack a master, they should be able to land a hit.
It was. Whether you don't like that particular direction of the character is your opinion. Just looking at the mechanics of the scene and the context of the relationship it is decently done.
If it was regarding Tanaka huh? Tanaka has, to my knowledge, been at the amusement park all day so how could Akisame have run into him? And if it was Tanaka then why wouldn't he say "I ran into Tanaka this time"? And this prediction of his has yet to be elaborated on but is clearly important.
Even a bunch of Master Classes attacking at once can't do anything to a really powerful Master(which Ogata presumably is). Two expert level guys should logically not be able to replicate that unless Ogata is way weaker than we've been lead to believe.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
It was. Whether you don't like that particular direction of the character is your opinion. Just looking at the mechanics of the scene and the context of the relationship it is decently done.
It wasn't: it was immaturely done, has been done in B-movies and comics a billion times over, and was too linear to be enjoyable in the slightest. If you enjoy crap writing and shitty lines, it would be enjoyable (that is actually a viable avenue of media consumption).
Originally posted by AuraAngel
If it was regarding Tanaka huh?
It was. You know, the part about it saying, "I can only pray that Tanaka-kun doesn't meet Kensei." It was clearly about Tanaka fighting Kensei.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Tanaka has, to my knowledge, been at the amusement park all day so how could Akisame have run into him?
Please read all of my posts regarding this again: at no point should you be asking me this type of question. Hint: at no point did I say the disciple he ran into at the burned-down dojo was Tanaka.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
And if it was Tanaka then why wouldn't he say "I ran into Tanaka this time"?
Please read all of my posts regarding this again: at no point should you be asking me this type of question. Hint: at no point did I say the disciple he ran into at the burned-down dojo was Tanaka.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
And this prediction of his has yet to be elaborated on but is clearly important.
You mean the one I commented on, already? Akisame thinks Kensei will either defeat Tanaka or will turn Tanaka.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Even a bunch of Master Classes attacking at once can't do anything to a really powerful Master(which Ogata presumably is). Two expert level guys should logically not be able to replicate that unless Ogata is way weaker than we've been lead to believe.
Kensei is not implied to be an uber master class. To me, he has always been implied to be a medium level master class. What feats does he have that put him on Par with the other One Shadow-Nine Fists and Ryozanpaku?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Kensei is not implied to be an uber master class. To me, he has always been implied to be a medium level master class. What feats does he have that put him on Par with the other One Shadow-Nine Fists and Ryozanpaku?
Well he's one of the few Yami members still around so I guess I'm hyped up for that. Oh and he killed a bear 😐
But Tanaka's power-jump is still a bit much at least for me. I was expecting him to be more on the level of the girly-man Sakaki beat.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well he's one of the few Yami members still around so I guess I'm hyped up for that. Oh and he killed a bear 😐
That's what I'm talking about. IMO, he is the weakest of Yami.
Punching a bear one time and killing it is <<<<<<<<<<<<Punching a massive rolling bolder and shattering it to pieces.
Kensei did the former and Sakaki did the latter.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
But Tanaka's power-jump is still a bit much at least for me. I was expecting him to be more on the level of the girly-man Sakaki beat.
The end of the chapter does state something about his power-jump. We are supposed to find out next chapter or something...
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's what I'm talking about. IMO, he is the weakest of Yami.Punching a bear one time and killing it is <<<<<<<<<<<<Punching a massive rolling bolder and shattering it to pieces.
Kensei did the former and Sakaki did the latter.
The end of the chapter does state something about his power-jump. We are supposed to find out next chapter or something...
Well I'm hoping he is at least stronger than Diego Carlos or Lance of the West 😐
I certainly hope so. Oh and an answer to whether or not Tanaka joins "da der Dark side"
Kensei should definitely be stronger than Diego Carlos at least given how much he knows in regards to martial arts. not to mention that he was really just screwing around with Ryuto and Kenichi and the former said that he drops his guard whenever he is complimenting someone, which is pretty much what he was doing the whole time when they were attacking him. and not to mention, that Kensei also apparently knows seikuken and the Seidou Gou as well.
and chances are, whatever Akisame found it is what had a hand in Tanak's power boost and seemingly going to make him go evil too if it keeps up.