Well, wasn't it stated from the beginning they were the best? lol. It goes with the whole good over evil thing. Besides, Apachai lost. he died. Aagard just couldn't move for 48 hrs. He got the better end of the deal.
Also, Shikaki had admitted that Hongo held the most wins before there last fight iirc.
Carlo had a shit style so of course he lost. Wrestling? Really? It wasn't even a useful form of wrestling.
The Combat Sambo guy did get worked, but come on, Akisame is a bad ass.
well it is a shone manga. the good guys always wins in the end. besides, like was pointed out, Ryozanpaku are the best around. what's more too is that with the case of the villains, they go all out with their power and skills as for them killing is easy, but for guys like Ryozanpaku, who follow that saving fist philsophy, they have to be sure to hold back just enough to avoid killing their opponents. the fact that they can do that says alot about how strong they really are too.
also, am I the only one who thought Ogata smacking aside Miu in this latest chapter was kinda epic? maybe it's because Miu was just on a winning streak recently or something that this looked cool. not to mention how effortlessly he did it too; Kenichi and co. have a long way to go before they reach master class.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The pro-Ryozanpaku argument basically amounts to: "Of course they are stronger, it's because they are stronger!"Are you people really this ****ing stupid?
Um....just saying that Apachai was still able to fight after having a hole in his gut and then there's my favorite example of Shigure. Both still manages to not kill their opponents even though they're supposed to be going all out.
So I'm really not sure how to look at the Ryozanpaku masters at this point.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The pro-Ryozanpaku argument basically amounts to: "Of course they are stronger, it's because they are stronger!"Are you people really this ****ing stupid?
Because they were said to be the strongest from the beginning. Why get all butt hurt when this was the premise from the beginning. I actually find it refreshing that the good guys just happen to be the powerhouses. It such a tired theme that evil is so powerful that you need a team of good guys to even weaken them... cough Madara... cough cough, And it hasn't been overwhelming victories every time (it actually seems like most of the masters have been strained a great deal as of late).
It's not like every good guy has won every match. Kenichi has lost to Tsuji, Ryuuto, and was murdered by Kirawit(thai boxer).
Ukita gets punked non-stop.
Takeda was owned by Lugh the first time around.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
The winners really.I mean the closest to facing an actual lose was Apachi. And I mean even in universe that was called a tie. And keep in mind he was not aiming to kill unlike the other guy. And even then he forced himself back to life somehow lol.
I still don't see how this wasn't a loss. He died. Game over. His willing back to life didn't change how that particular fight ended between those two. Aagard won imo. I was actually pissed because I like Apachai's style the best, and he goes and gets dead.
Originally posted by socool8520
Because they were said to be the strongest from the beginning. Why get all butt hurt when this was the premise from the beginning. I actually find it refreshing that the good guys just happen to be the powerhouses. It such a tired theme that evil is so powerful that you need a team of good guys to even weaken them... cough Madara... cough cough, And it hasn't been overwhelming victories every time (it actually seems like most of the masters have been strained a great deal as of late).
The problems it that the author took the time out to introduce an Anti-Ryozanpaku with masters just as skilled as them and better finances but still get the short end of the stick when going up against them save for Ogata, Saiga, and miss see-though boobs: can't remember her name.
Plus the Junazard fight was some bullshit: even though a Ryozanpaku master technically didn't beat him.
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
The problems it that the author took the time out to introduce an Anti-Ryozanpaku with masters just as skilled as them and better finances but still get the short end of the stick when going up against them save for Ogata, Saiga, and miss see-though boobs: can't remember her name.Plus the Junazard fight was some bullshit: even though a Ryozanpaku master technically didn't beat him.
They were just as skilled, but not better. They didn't get the short end of the stick. They were all competitive fights. The only Master vs. Master fight I felt was truly lopsided was the Akisame vs. the Combat Sambo guy. Now, had every Ryozanpaku master utterly pwned the demon gods, I could see where every one would be upset. But this hasn't been the case.
Why was it bullshit? Junazaard didn't wasn't willing to die, Hongo was so he wins. not to mention Junazard was playing around too much which also cost him the loss. It's his own fault.
Originally posted by socool8520
They were just as skilled, but not better. They didn't get the short end of the stick. They were all competitive fights. The only Master vs. Master fight I felt was truly lopsided was the Akisame vs. the Combat Sambo guy. Now, had every Ryozanpaku master utterly pwned the demon gods, I could see where every one would be upset. But this hasn't been the case.Why was it bullshit? Junazaard didn't wasn't willing to die, Hongo was so he wins. not to mention Junazard was playing around too much which also cost him the loss. It's his own fault.
Apachai ans Shigure come to mind for stupid miraculous wins. And wasn't see through boobs able to stalemate both Sakaki and Shigure at the same time?
Junazard was able to take on Sakaki and Hongo a few chapter back IIRC on top of Junazard being the better fighter by Hongo's own admission. To add insult to injury, Hongo pretty much willed himself back to life. Though I didn't really like pervy-mask, the ending to that fight was crap.
Kushinada (I'm pretty sure that's her name) was able to make both Shikaki and Shigure look bad like you said, which only proves they are not getting shafted like everyone thinks.
Apachai didn't win. He died. He willed himself back to life to stop a master weapons guy who was probably only on the level of Fortuna (Shit basically). The guy's best showingcame against Kenichi (A high disciple class at the time). He got pwned by Freya's grandfather. Bad.
Shigure really hasn't faced anyone that strong imo, and she always come back to the dojo jacked up.
He took on a severely weakened Shikaki and Hongo (they had just gotten finished destroying each other iirc.) Like I said earlier, had Junazard fought better early, Hongo would have died.
I guess my point with bringing that up was to stress that an anti-Ryozanpaku group being reduced to relatively small numbers is pretty bad.
Well it was more like a draw though Agaard admits that he won so I just go with that usually.
With the exception of that Iai user guy I guess. Other than that I always figured she looked fine compared to most of the other returning masters other than that fact that she can't keep her clothes for some reason.