Attention Republicans: Stop being corporatists.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well that's your opinion, and I disagree because I think most of his policies are good.

My point, and I'm sorry you didn't get it, was that it is just your opinion. I simple think it is crass to tell people that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My point, and I'm sorry you didn't get it, was that it is just your opinion. I simple think it is crass to tell people that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes, my opinions on politics are opinions. I would think that would be evident from the posts themselves.

Are you and King Kandy the same person? 😕

I can't 100% prove Reagan was a bad president any more than someone can 100% prove Hitler was a bad chancellor. It's always a judgment in politics and that's based on pre-determined notions of what is good, which are, yes, opinions.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I can't 100% prove Reagan was a bad president any more than someone can 100% prove Hitler was a bad chancellor. It's always a judgment in politics and that's based on pre-determined notions of what is good, which are, yes, opinions.

But people who are partisan (and I don't know if you are, or not) have a tenancy to ignore what does not fit within their party point of view, and over emphasize those things that do. Both sides spin and don't even realize it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But people who are partisan (and I don't know if you are, or not) have a tenancy to ignore what does not fit within their party point of view, and over emphasize those things that do. Both sides spin and don't even realize it.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well that's why I debate these things. To make sure that I understand all the points of views and see their validity.

That's cool, but to compare a former president of ether party to Hitler, is just using sensationalize to support an emotional point. There is no place for that in debate.

No, I think my point (that both politicians manipulate into bad policies with charisma) is quite valid.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, I think my point (that both politicians manipulate into bad policies with charisma) is quite valid.

All politicians use charisma, if they have it, to deflect attention from their policies that might be considered negative by someone.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Old news, but still fail. (And for the record, the bill did just pass, despite the GOP's attempts to block it.)

Seriously, what the f***. We basically need to kill all the current Republicans and then clone Ron Paul a hundred times.

Ron Paul was the ONLY candidate in the last election who was someone for the people,of the people,and by the people instead of for the corporations.More importantly,he was the only one that believed in the constitution.If he doesnt get elected next time around,were screwed.

They will make sure he doesnt because of those facts.all the people in congress from both parties are that way.the ones that arent,get kicked out of office,they either stay and become corrupt like that,or they have morals and values and when they see how corrupt washington really is,they get out of office cause they want nothing to do with those crooks.Jesse Ventura got out because he saw how corrupt they all were up there and wanted no part of it.good man Jesse is.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
by the people

Which explains those tens of millions of votes he got. Wait a second . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which explains those tens of millions of votes he got. Wait a second . . .

pfft, what kind of insane political philosophy would expect individual people to know best what they want?

what?

Originally posted by inimalist
pfft, what kind of insane political philosophy would expect individual people to know best what they want?

what?

People do know what they want. Unfortunately people are stupid, kind of like people that believe Ron Paul "supports the Constitution" and "supports individual freedom".

Ron Paul would have been an awful president. Not because he's a bad guy like some candidates, but because his policies just won't cause good results. Most presidents we've had have been good people (with a few exceptions), I only consider them bad because they have bad ideas.

Implying that Dubya doesn't have charisma, implying that he didn't use his malapropisms to his advantage to seem like a "folksy" guy, implying that Ron Paul doesn't support the Constitution and individual freedom, implying that Hitler wasn't exceptionally charismatic, implying that the USSR wouldn't have rotted away from the inside with or without the Cold War...

I leave for 12 hours and I come back to a failboat steaming into harbor with a fresh shipment. No wonder politics in our country is a mess.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Implying that Dubya doesn't have charisma, implying that he didn't use his malapropisms to his advantage to seem like a "folksy" guy, implying that Ron Paul doesn't support the Constitution and individual freedom, implying that Hitler wasn't exceptionally charismatic, implying that the USSR wouldn't have rotted away from the inside with or without the Cold War...

I leave for 12 hours and I come back to a failboat steaming into harbor with a fresh shipment. No wonder politics in our country is a mess.

So, it's all your fault! 😱

"Obama and Bush should have switched places, because Obama would have saved every black person after Katrina, and Bush would have saved every single drop of oil after the spill." - Chris Rock

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
implying that Ron Paul doesn't support the Constitution and individual freedom

No no, stating outright.

Ron Paul has held that the right of the state of make sodomy illegal is more important than the right of the individual to have anal sex. But remember everyone "Freedom Is Slavery", "Conformity Is Individuality". I'm sure if you say it enough it'll become true.

As for the Constitution, his support of it only shows up when convenient. For example he has introduced Constitutional amendments to change it, completely contradicting claim that he "support the original Constitution". Oh and he opposes the Electoral College, which is... no no, I'll let you guess what document introduced that idea.

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Implying that Dubya doesn't have charisma, implying that he didn't use his malapropisms to his advantage to seem like a "folksy" guy, implying that Ron Paul doesn't support the Constitution and individual freedom, implying that Hitler wasn't exceptionally charismatic, implying that the USSR wouldn't have rotted away from the inside with or without the Cold War...

I leave for 12 hours and I come back to a failboat steaming into harbor with a fresh shipment. No wonder politics in our country is a mess.

sweet, i only violated one!

me smrt!

Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Implying that Dubya doesn't have charisma, implying that he didn't use his malapropisms to his advantage to seem like a "folksy" guy, implying that Ron Paul doesn't support the Constitution and individual freedom, implying that Hitler wasn't exceptionally charismatic, implying that the USSR wouldn't have rotted away from the inside with or without the Cold War...

I leave for 12 hours and I come back to a failboat steaming into harbor with a fresh shipment. No wonder politics in our country is a mess.

whoever said that Ron Paul doesnt support the constitution and freedoms is clueless and knows nothing at all about Ron Paul.america would be on its way to being a country for the people again if he had been elected.again he was the only candidate that believes in the constitution.none of the others did.all the others are corrupt because they are all CFR members.Ron Paul he doesnt want to have anything to do with that corrupt organization.He doesnt agree with anything that they do where Bush and Obama and MCcain are members and do agree with them.You cant become president unless you are a member of the CFR group and thats just plain wrong but thats the way it is.