YuLaw/Gabe Law versus Weapon XI...

Started by KingD197 pages

His widest was never more than a standard beam, but let's be honest...he had all the abilities of Cyclops, so he could do the WFTPWN blast if he wanted. The only reason he didn't was because he was under Stryker's control.

Originally posted by marwash22
. Sabretooth does not move at human speed, he made it clear across to the other side of the cylinder thing while Deadpool was distracted by shooting Wolverine (all that happened in less than 5 seconds).
Watching the movie now. XI TP's to the other side of the smokestack, it took Creed 20 seconds to get to XI.

Liar.

And to answer the question I asked about what's the widest beam XI was ever shown shooting, it was narrow,

Got anything else?

Obvious next question: What was Cyclop's widest beam? Blasting the Humvee in X2? Blasting the guards in Origins? Or?

How wide were those? Will width matter to a couple of guys that move so fast they perceive bullets as traveling fairly slow?

@ RJ.

lol, whatever dude. You're just gonna keep claiming that the Law's are faster than they really are and denying the destructive ability of the Optic blast... once again, you win due to me not wanting to restate the same things over and over again.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, fail.

Being able to pick up 600+ pounds with each arm, while having those arms fully extended (thereby increasing the strength needed to hold) and swinging that weight as it was paper, is well above "peak human", it's super-human, period.

Haven't seen the film in some time, as it's not very good. But I also think Yu-Law was able to make an indent in concrete with a foot-stomp. Clearly, well above "peak human", again.

no Rob, you fail. I said they were slightly above peak human, in other words, superhuman.

Originally posted by Robtard
Obvious next question: What was Cyclop's widest beam? Blasting the Humvee in X2? Blasting the guards in Origins? Or?

How wide were those? Will width matter to a couple of guys that move so fast they perceive bullets as traveling fairly slow?

Origins version only. Actually, XI only. His beams were all narrow, like a lightsaber blade.

Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, fail.

Being able to pick up 600+ pounds with each arm, while having those arms fully extended (thereby increasing the strength needed to hold) and swinging that weight as it was paper, is well above "peak human", it's super-human, period.

Haven't seen the film in some time, as it's not very good. But I also think Yu-Law was able to make an indent in concrete with a foot-stomp. Clearly, well above "peak human", again.

Well said, greaser.

Originally posted by KingD19
His widest was never more than a standard beam, but let's be honest...he had all the abilities of Cyclops, so he could do the WFTPWN blast if he wanted. The only reason he didn't was because he was under Stryker's control.
And he is under Stryker's control here 😄

Narrow beams only.

lol, now RJ is retconning the thread... seems to be a habit with him.

Originally posted by marwash22
lol, now RJ is retconning the thread... seems to be a habit with him.
If that means I am sticking strictly to screen feats, per forum rules, guilty.

Originally posted by marwash22

no Rob, you fail. I said they were slightly above peak human, in other words, superhuman.

Again, trying to cover a fail with more fail, just poor form.

As as I've shown, they're clearly a lot more than "slighty" above peak human.

IIRC, Marvel has "peak human" as being able to lift 800lbs over the head with extreme/maximun effort. If Law can swing around 600+ lbs in each arm as it was almost nothing, he'd clearly going to be able to press more than just "slightly" above 800lbs with maximum effort. It'd easily be in the several tons range.

Is constantly trying to downplay a character's abilities your angle in debating? Seems like it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If that means I am sticking strictly to screen feats, per forum rules, guilty.
no, but three pages in and all of a sudden Deadpool is under the control of Striker... gimme a break.

Originally posted by Robtard
As as I've shown, they're clearly a lot more than "slighty" above peak human.

IIRC, Marvel has "peak human" as being able to lift 800lbs over the head with extreme/maximun effort. If Law can swing around 600+ lbs in each arm as it was almost nothing, he'd clearly going to be able to press more than just "slightly" above 800lbs with maximum effort. It'd easily be in the several tons range.

So, i wasn't specific enough for you, is that the problem? I said slightly above peak-human, because that's what they have exhibited. I never put a cap on, nor did i specifically say what class they would fall under. But "Slightly above peak human" is very much accurate. The Law's are somewhere between 1 and two ton'ers... which would put them somewhere between class one and two. Anything else is speculation on your part because unless i missed a scene or two in the 5+ times i watched the movie, they were never show pressing more than a ton over their head.

Let's play your speculative game though: Two bikes weighing 600lbs with extended arms and swinging them... ok, lets bump thier greatest strength feat up to 3000lbs... that's still just above peak human.

Considering he's had his mind wiped and is little more than a drone, it's probably a good thing we stick with what was on screen, as he fought well under Stryker's control.

Originally posted by marwash22
no, but three pages in and all of a sudden Deadpool is under the control of Striker... gimme a break.

Read the OP:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
YuLaw and Gabe Law have teamed up to rule the universe at the end of "The One" instead of fighting each other.

[b]Stryker isn't having it. He wants their ability to travel between dimensions for himself. He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

XI catches up to the Law's on Alcatraz Island. They fight, to the death, in broad daylight.

The Law's are each armed with two handguns and an assault rifle. [/B]

Stryker isn't having it. He wants their ability to travel between dimensions for himself. He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

Stryker isn't having it. He wants their ability to travel between dimensions for himself. He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

Stryker isn't having it. He wants their ability to travel between dimensions for himself. He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

YouTube video

^ Where in that does it say that DEADPOOL IS FIGHTING UNDER THE CONTROL OF STRYKER?

My problem is that, my entire stance was based on that fact that, it WASN'T stated in the OP that Deadpool was fighting under Stryker's control... here we are 3 pages into the conversation and now we get the info... that's bullshit thread-retconning.

whatever guy. You keep making spite threads if that's what you're in to.

Stryker isn't having it. He wants their ability to travel between dimensions for himself. He dispatches Weapon XI to kill them.

Why else would XI obey Stryker? Why would XI go obediently when "dispatched?" Because he is under Stryker's control. Funny that you are the only one questioning that.

Is the argument that Deadpool is going to perform better not being under Stryker's control? Despite that the only move-feats we have of him are while under control. Nonsense and pointless argument.

Let's clear some things up.

Deadpool will not be put down by a bullet to the head. His regeneration is better than Wolverine's...we notice this when Logan jammed his claws into XI's gut...he didn't flinch and it healed instantly...Logan takes a few seconds to heal. If Logan can take a head shot when coming out of the tank where he received the adamantium...then Deadpool can most certainly take the same shot.

Another thing..I believe the movie IMPLIES that Deadpool was fitted with an adamantium skeleton. He's the only other guy that could survive the procedure.

As far as the Law's being too fast to touch. I remember Delroy Lindo tagged him in their brief scuffle. Also, Yulaw was not fast enough to evade capture at the end of the movie when the guards grabbed him and strapped him into the chair to send him to the Hades universe. He wasn't even strong enough to break the bonds of the chair that sent him there. Hell, his grip wasn't even strong enough to hold on to his gun when the MRI machine or whatever it was pulled it from his hand. I know Yulaw is strong...and IS stronger than Weapon XI...but, that's where it ends. Hell, who's to say that XI couldn't teleport inside Yulaw's body..materialize and bust through his flesh with his swords? Or bust out with an optic blast...he has the capability to do so with his powerset.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Let's clear some things up.

Deadpool will not be put down by a bullet to the head. His regeneration is better than Wolverine's...we notice this when Logan jammed his claws into XI's gut...he didn't flinch and it healed instantly...Logan takes a few seconds to heal. If Logan can take a head shot when coming out of the tank where he received the adamantium...then Deadpool can most certainly take the same shot.

facepalm

Logna took the shot on his adamantium. XI has no adamantium. The bullet will enter his brain and put him down.

Another thing..I believe the movie IMPLIES that Deadpool was fitted with an adamantium skeleton. He's the only other guy that could survive the procedure.
"The bonding procedure is not complete."

As far as the Law's being too fast to touch. I remember Delroy Lindo tagged him in their brief scuffle. Also, Yulaw was not fast enough to evade capture at the end of the movie when the guards grabbed him and strapped him into the chair to send him to the Hades universe. He wasn't even strong enough to break the bonds of the chair that sent him there. Hell, his grip wasn't even strong enough to hold on to his gun when the MRI machine or whatever it was pulled it from his hand. I know Yulaw is strong...and IS stronger than Weapon XI...but, that's where it ends. Hell, who's to say that XI couldn't teleport inside Yulaw's body..materialize and bust through his flesh with his swords? Or bust out with an optic blast...he has the capability to do so with his powerset.

He blinded YuLaw first with a fire extinguisher. YuLaw had opened the back doors to the van, and, not knowing Lindo was there, got blinded.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
facepalm

Logna took the shot on his adamantium. XI has no adamantium. The bullet will enter his brain and put him down.

"The bonding procedure is not complete."

He blinded YuLaw first with a fire extinguisher. YuLaw had opened the back doors to the van, and, not knowing Lindo was there, got blinded.

If he can dodge bullets..he should be able to dodge spray from a fire extinguisher. Also, what about Yulaw not being able to break the grasp of the guards carrying him to the chair that would send him to the Hades universe.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
If he can dodge bullets..he should be able to dodge spray from a fire extinguisher. Also, what about Yulaw not being able to break the grasp of the guards carrying him to the chair that would send him to the Hades universe.

Hey, shit happens in movies. Why didn't XI TP away when Logan decapped him? He had plenty of time.

This is why we use high end feats.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Hey, shit happens in movies. Why didn't XI TP away when Logan decapped him? He had plenty of time.

This is why we use high end feats.

We need high and low end feats to establish a medium. What Lindo did..tells me that XI can hit Yulaw with an optic blast..especially if he TP's right behind him.