Originally posted by Master_Starbuck
Yulaw couldn't escape their grasp because the porting device temporarily weakened people after they passed through the dimensional rift. Remember? They made that clear at the beggining of the movie.It isn't some movie glitch.
Not true. When he first arrived in the Hades universe...he proceeded to kick everyone's ass right away.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Even if the bullet got past Logan's skull (I don't remember Stryker saying that, you got a link?), Logan was out for a long time. Think about it, when Logan rubbed his claws together, what happened? Why didn't they cut through each other?When one of the Law's caps XI, he'll be out for a long time. That's a win. Besides, if XI loses his memory (which will happen when the Law's head shot him), he's done. He won't remember a thing. Law's win ✅
Or they could just walk over and unload in his face until it's mush.
Either way, the Law's walk away victorious.
The Law's will not head shot XI before XI can teleport the hearts of their chests. Remember..this isn't Nightcrawler...XI doesn't give a damn.
Originally posted by Tattoos N ScarsWhat? Explain that.
The Law's will not head shot XI before XI can teleport the hearts of their chests. Remember..this isn't Nightcrawler...XI doesn't give a damn.
Originally posted by Tattoos N ScarsNo. He was spent. He retreated from them, walked up the stairs, gathered his strength, then proceeded to rape them.
Not true. When he first arrived in the Hades universe...he proceeded to kick everyone's ass right away.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What? Explain that.No. He was spent. He retreated from them, walked up the stairs, gathered his strength, then proceeded to rape them.
So? No more time was spent doing that..than when the guards were trying to figure out which Law to send to the Hades universe.
What I mean in my last post is that XI can teleport their hearts out.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
So? No more time was spent doing that..than when the guards were trying to figure out which Law to send to the Hades universe.What I mean in my last post is that XI can teleport their hearts out.
What are you saying? YuLaw was useless when he arrived where the guards were, unable to overpower them. And when he arrived at Hades, it was the same thing. It happened to everyone. When travelling between dimensions, upon arrival, the traveler needed time to recover. Not sure what your angle is here.
And dude, that's not possible. XI never did that. Only way he can do that is to punch through their chest and yank out their heart, and he never showed that type of strength and/or skill. Not to mention that the Law's are too fast for him to catch.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
What are you saying? YuLaw was useless when he arrived where the guards were, unable to overpower them. And when he arrived at Hades, it was the same thing. It happened to everyone. When travelling between dimensions, upon arrival, the traveler needed time to recover. Not sure what your angle is here.And dude, that's not possible. XI never did that. Only way he can do that is to punch through their chest and yank out their heart, and he never showed that type of strength and/or skill. Not to mention that the Law's are too fast for him to catch.
The guards had strapped down Gabe in the chair first..thinking he was the evil Law. When they noticed the tan line from where his wedding band was..they realized the mistake and then grabbed Yulaw...and strapped him in. Yulaw had plenty of time to recover during that sequence. The time that passed was even longer than the time that had passed when Yulaw began fighting inmates once he arrived in the Hades universe.
Also, it doesn't take strength to faze through someone's body and grab the heart on the way through the body. Yulaw is not as fast as teleportation.
Originally posted by Tattoos N ScarsBut somehow he lifted two motorcycles and used them like battering rams. Go figure.
The guards had strapped down Gabe in the chair first..thinking he was the evil Law. When they noticed the tan line from where his wedding band was..they realized the mistake and then grabbed Yulaw...and strapped him in. Yulaw had plenty of time to recover during that sequence. The time that passed was even longer than the time that had passed when Yulaw began fighting inmates once he arrived in the Hades universe.
Also, it doesn't take strength to faze through someone's body and grab the heart on the way through the body. Yulaw is not as fast as teleportation.Phase through and grab their hearts? haermm Wow, dude, just wow.
Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
And?That doesn't mean shit to someone Yulaw will never hit.
You act like XI's teleporting is a sure win, it aint. Logan and Creed managed to tag him a few times and they are slugs compared to the Law's. Plus the Law's have guns.
Bottom line is this: Logan and Creed defeated XI, and they are nowhere as fast, strong, or as skilled as the Law's. The Law's will beat XI, quite easily.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You act like XI's teleporting is a sure win, it aint. Logan and Creed managed to tag him a few times and they are slugs compared to the Law's. Plus the Law's have guns.Bottom line is this: Logan and Creed defeated XI, and they are nowhere as fast, strong, or as skilled as the Law's. The Law's will beat XI, quite easily.
XI wanted to engage them in battle. He teleported to the other side of the battle area on a whim. XI doesn't have to fight close...he can fight at a distance if he chooses to do so....and he can teleport away before the Law's could run over and touch him.
Tats and Scars has a point about the "tired after teleport" problem.
However, for regular humans, Yu Law would NOT have to be very strong, at all. He only had to be human as he was an expert martial artist and he had the high ground. So it's really a moot point.
And...both XI and Wraith were never shown teleporting, partially, into a body, and pulling organs out. Why did I mention Wraith? Simple: XI has Wraith's genes that give him the teleportation ability.
If Wraith could do that, he would have done it against Victor Creed on the streets and XI would have done it to Creed and Howlett, all the same.
Remember, on screen feats, only. It wasn't shown so it can't be done.
HOWEVER!, if one is strong enough and can predict where the teleporter will go, THEY can grab XI's spine and hold him in place long enough to tear his head off or punch a hole in his face...because THAT was actually shown on screen. 🙂
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I never said they didn't have a point about being tired after dimensional travel, I am just curious why they think it has an impact on this fight.
Originally posted by dadudemon
However, for regular humans, Yu Law would NOT have to be very strong, at all. He only had to be human as he was an expert martial artist and he had the high ground. So it's really a moot point.
Time to end this.
Alright, I was going to make it long and poetic. Instead, I'll make it short and sweet: Gabe Law is a martial artist as we all know, but what you don't is the specifics of his martial art - it's a variation of Daoist Gung Fu called Bagua Zhang. It's a multi-directional, position based combat style that allows the user to take full use of their body weight as a weapon, and also to use body positioning to attack and defend in *any* direction, and to use that positioning to intercept attacks and negate speed.
If Gabe can move at the speed of light, or close enough to it, then he can utilize the body-positioning in his artform to set up an intercept, and actually neutralize an attack XI may use - even while attacking suddenly from behind.
Yulaw uses a martial art related to the one I practice in real life, called Xing Yi. Xing Yi does not have the same dynamic and useful traits as Gabe's art, but doesn't matter.
Here's my final point.
If the two Law's attack XI, and lets say XI does manage to catch one of them with a beam or whatnot, most likely Yulaw
Then Gabe will receive Yulaw's power, and become invincible.
Part of the point of The One, was that the people trailing Yulaw were afraid to kill either he or Gabe, because they knew if one died, the other would automatically become a God.
XI may be able to teleport. But kill Yulaw and have Gabe become a God?
Gabe will be able to bend time and space to his will as if it were a toy, and then you would see such extreme and utter rapage, it would be unimaginable.
The Laws themselves versus XI sounds close to an undecidable scenario.
If XI kills one of the Laws, it's an automatic win for the left over Law, who then proceeds to rape the unliving shit out of the mutant.
There you have it. Laws win.
Next, Garfield versus Marmaduke...
Except The Laws can't 'move at the speed of light or close enough to it.'
Decent point about if DP kills one of them, though we don't know what would happen, the survivor could become more powerful, could become like a god, the universe could implode or some other unknown, as the movie never gave a definite answer.