Steve Rogers/Bat Family UFC Guantlet

Started by Q994 pages

Batman is actually 1-1 against Deathstroke, that's better than 3 stalemates (one of which where Deathstroke was stated as toying with her).

Note, he said she was toying with her but she was visibly winning, she had a sword to his face. The toying with bit is the only thing that makes it a draw. If you want to be nitpicky enough to not call that a draw, I'll point out he actually ran from all three fights.

I'm pretty sure Batman's fought Slade more than twice... but hey, he jumped Slade and got worked. Slade fights Cass with no prep or ambush on her part and has to pull back. Slade even admits that her fighting is perfect and the only way he, *Deathstroke* can get to her is by psychology.

Cassandra he needs psychology, Batman he needs punching.

The Iceman comes and KOes Steve FTW.

Steve's stamina, fatigue not much of a problem, lifting 800 lbs. 9. Cassie stops him. No he doesn't clear it

The problem a LOT of the Bat Family characters will have here is the limited room they have to move around in the Octagon. They can't do their fancy dodging moves and if Steve gets on top of them or gets them clinched near the fence, it's finished. Few of them can bring him down to inflict damage. He's just too big, too strong, too skilled and never tires. In some cases, he's faster than them.

I say he makes it to Batman or clears.

Steve clears easily via lay and pray

Originally posted by Angel Watching
lifting 800 lbs.

read less bios, Steve lifts WAY more , he casually curls 1100lbs

grappling > martial arts every time. theres nothing cass can do when cap gets a hold of her

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
grappling > martial arts every time. theres nothing cass can do when cap gets a hold of her

Huh? Grappling is a martial art.

Capt does have better all around tool set for UFC match then Cass and that he physically superior.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Capt does have better all around tool set for UFC match then Cass and that he physically superior.

In some areas. She does have better speed feats and is a smaller/harder target.

I don't even see Steve getting past NW after all those fights. If he gets past him then he definitely stops @ Cassie.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I don't even see Steve getting past NW after all those fights. If he gets past him then he definitely stops @ Cassie.

why do you think this? Look through his career, can you count the number of times people of the same calibur as those combatants lower than NW has caused Cap problems enough to end a fight? If we liken Cap to DS, then he also rolls NW in 1 panel no? Transfer that to the Octagon. Which also implies he's obliterating everyone lower on the list and suffering no ill effects of those battles. One or two of the shot Cap uses to casually daze spider-man would be enough to seriously hinder many people on this list.

Originally posted by Juk3n
why do you think this? Look through his career, can you count the number of times people of the same calibur as those combatants lower than NW has caused Cap problems enough to end a fight? If we liken Cap to DS, then he also rolls NW in 1 panel no? Transfer that to the Octagon. Which also implies he's obliterating everyone lower on the list and suffering no ill effects of those battles. One or two of the shot Cap uses to casually daze spider-man would be enough to seriously hinder many people on this list.

Except Cap is not gonna roll NW in one panel. Nightwing these days is considered around Batman caliber himself. It would be a fight. I don't see Cap emerging victorious from that match and then taking out a fighter like Cassandra Cain.

And heaven forbid, getting past her and then taking Batman? Sounds like a hell of a workload for Cap to plow straight through. Remember, NW, Cassie, and Bruce individually can and have given metas fits even hand to hand.

to my knowledge, pressure point strikes are not against the rules in UFC...

Steve utterly destroys 1-6. Grayson hangs in and does damage then Steve gets dropped at 9.

Yea, let's not forget that humans like Crossbones and Batroc are quite capable of giving Capt a good fight, and the best bats would beat them.

Originally posted by Q99
In some areas. She does have better speed feats and is a smaller/harder target.
He grabs her and judo tosses her ass.

Then LnP's for three rounds.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, let's not forget that humans like Crossbones and Batroc are quite capable of giving Capt a good fight, and the best bats would beat them.

I don't think we can say that guys like Batroc and Crossbones are still capable of giving Cap a good fight unless he's holding back quite a bit. I mean he beat Crossbones when he had lost the SSS and Crossbones actually had a strength edge against him, and he's been making Batroc look like a chump when they fight for years now.

In other words, these villians(or at least one) have become jokes and are not suitable matches for the most formmidable characters listed in this guantlet either.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He grabs her and judo tosses her ass.

Then LnP's for three rounds.

Tossing Cass is just going to end up with her landing on her feat or hands and attacking from that position.

Grabbing her in the first place is super-hard too.

Originally posted by Q99
Tossing Cass is just going to end up with her landing on her feat or hands and attacking from that position.

Grabbing her in the first place is super-hard too.

Do you even understand what happens in a judo toss, or is all your MA logic derived from comics?