Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Herc and WW are the weak links that cause the "God Squad" to lose; they lack flight and versatility...Heralds win convincingly...
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Lol. Maybe his talking about current Wonder Woman who doesn't have flight?
I think Thor, Bill, and Adam would beat Surfer, Stardust and Terrax. I'd give the edge to Fire Lord and Morg if they match up against Hercules and Diana. It would however be a pretty tough fight. Fire Lord resorts to mostly blasting his opponents away while Morg goes in physical. Those type of mentalities directly play into the strengths of the Greek duo.
I'd say a split. An argument can be made for either side to win. I might favor the Herald. I'd assume all of them outside of Fire Lord would go for the throat. Even Norrin nowadays seems more of a warrior and less of a pacifist.
Heralds definitely take this. Hercules can be incapacitated pretty easily
by the higher level heralds and would even lose to terrax who is the weakest on that team. Surfer can take anyone on the God squad, and so can Morg probably. Firelord can hold his own against anyone of them and beat some as well. Then we have stardust who if matched up against the Godsquad opponents limited to mainly physical attacks would be at an immediate advantage, and who can also hold his own/defeat the ones not limited to mainly physical attacks.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Heralds definitely take this. Hercules can be incapacitated pretty easily
by the higher level heralds and would even lose to terrax who is the weakest on that team. Surfer can take anyone on the God squad, and so can Morg probably. Firelord can hold his own against anyone of them and beat some as well. Then we have stardust who if matched up against the Godsquad opponents limited to mainly physical attacks would be at an immediate advantage, and who can also hold his own/defeat the ones not limited to mainly physical attacks.
Don't underestimate Hercules. His pretty tough. Any of the heralds can defeat him easily if they play smart, but let's be honest here, outside of maybe Norrin and Stardust, the rest are likely going to engage him head on. That would play to his strength's. I could definitely see Hercules doing pretty well against Morg or Terrax, the more physically oriented Heralds.
But I think I'd give the win to the heralds now. The God Squad's victory depends too much on chance. And on whether or not Thor decides to cut loose and solo the other side.
I still think Thor and Bill would naturally match up with Norrin and Stardust. Hercules is likely to match up with Fire Lord due to their history. Terrax and Morg would be left to face Wonder Woman and Adam most likely. Heralds would edge them out if either Terrax, Morg or FireLord defeat their opponent sooner rather than later. The heralds are more powerful overall.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't underestimate Hercules. His pretty tough. Any of the heralds can defeat him easily if they play smart, but let's be honest here, outside of maybe Norrin and Stardust, the rest are likely going to engage him head on. That would play to his strength's. I could definitely see Hercules doing pretty well against Morg or Terrax, the more physically oriented Heralds.But I think I'd give the win to the heralds now. The God Squad's victory depends too much on chance. And on whether or not Thor decides to cut loose and solo the other side.
I still think Thor and Bill would naturally match up with Norrin and Stardust. Hercules is likely to match up with Fire Lord due to their history. Terrax and Morg would be left to face Wonder Woman and Adam most likely. Heralds would edge them out if either Terrax, Morg or FireLord defeat their opponent sooner rather than later. The heralds are more powerful overall.
Hercules should realistically have a chance against only terrax and even then hed still lose. He would have absolutely no hope against Morg though. Given the nature of Morgs weapon (and the fact that he isnt as stupid as terraX), him matching up against Hercules would be disastrous. The match could literally be over in one shot. Moreover Morg matching up against Thor would also not be the best either given thors penchant for physical brawling, and the ever looming possibility of decapitation or at the very least lifethreatening injuries if Morg manages to land an axe strike (which is likely)
Originally posted by Naija boy
Hercules should realistically have a chance against only terrax and even then hed still lose. He would have absolutely no hope against Morg though. Given the nature of Morgs weapon (and the fact that he isnt as stupid as terraX), him matching up against Hercules would be disastrous. The match could literally be over in one shot. Moreover Morg matching up against Thor would also not be the best either given thors penchant for physical brawling, and the ever looming possibility of decapitation or at the very least lifethreatening injuries if Morg manages to land an axe strike (which is likely)
I don't see him matching up well with either Norrin or Stardust. Especially Stardust. FireLord's stock has fallen since their original encounter but I'm assuming he can still burn Hercules like he could before but his still mostly blasts and takes on opponents head on. I think Hercules could hold his own.
Why would it be disastrous? Morg is purely a physical opponent with an axe that could cut Hercules. I'm not as well versed in Hercules' history as I am in Thor's, but I highly doubt taking on an opponent with an axe that could kill him is something his unfamiliar with. As a matter of fact, didn't Typhoon have an axe in his fight with Hercules? This fight also reminds me that Hercules has had his mace a great deal currently. I think it would fall under the standard equipment rule now. Meaning he wouldn't have to resort to only dodging.
Thor being a purely physical opponent means he has had a great deal of experience fighting opponents like Morg. Frankly, I think Thor would do better against Morg than he would against Surfer. Same goes for Herc. The option of simply beating the shit out of his opponent straight up would be more readily available to Thor against Morg than it would be against Norrin. Thor also has a very good track record of dodging weapons or attacks that could harm him in close quarters and dealing with said attackers. Going overboard there with life threatening aren't you bud? On average Morg would break Thor's skin but he isn't taking off limbs or anything with his strikes.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't see him matching up well with either Norrin or Stardust. Especially Stardust. FireLord's stock has fallen since their original encounter but I'm assuming he can still burn Hercules like he could before but his still mostly blasts and takes on opponents head on. I think Hercules could hold his own.Why would it be disastrous? Morg is purely a physical opponent with an axe that could cut Hercules. I'm not as well versed in Hercules' history as I am in Thor's, but I highly doubt taking on an opponent with an axe that could kill him is something his unfamiliar with. As a matter of fact, didn't Typhoon have an axe in his fight with Hercules? This fight also reminds me that Hercules has had his mace a great deal currently. I think it would fall under the standard equipment rule now. Meaning he wouldn't have to resort to only dodging.
Thor being a purely physical opponent means he has had a great deal of experience fighting opponents like Morg. Frankly, I think Thor would do better against Morg than he would against Surfer. Same goes for Herc. The option of simply beating the shit out of his opponent straight up would be more readily available to Thor against Morg than it would be against Norrin. Thor also has a very good track record of dodging weapons or attacks that could harm him in close quarters and dealing with said attackers. Going overboard there with life threatening aren't you bud? On average Morg would break Thor's skin but he isn't taking off limbs or anything with his strikes.
Really i dont see how hercules could possibly hold his own against firelord. Hercules cant fly, and is limited to purely physical attacks, meanwhile firelord can just stay in the air and incinearate him while he is on the ground. Firelords range advantage is way too much for hercules. Very bad matchup for him there.
Morgs axe was able to rips surfers board clean in half with only one strike so it would without a doubt kill hercules depending on where it landed. Hercules may be used to taking on opponents with weapons that can kill him but the fact remains that, they CAN KILL him (in this case with one shot) and therefore it is still a huge disadvantage. Moreover, even giving him his mace will not make a fight between he and morg equal because morg still has an insane energy output which Hercules has no counter for(which he can use in conjunction with his axe). So he either goes out via, being split in half or gets taken out via Morgs energy output. Once again terrible matchup
Thor being a physical brawler does mean that he has the opportunity to simply beat up Morg in a physical match but also means that he is going to be susceptible to the same treatment from Morg. Moreover in melee combant between two characters with similar fighting styles, Edged weapons are generally superior to blunt weapons due to potential damage output per strike. Then given that Thors durability towards edged weapons has never been the greatest and that we hve seen Morg slice Surfers board in half with one swing.........the rest should be clear. Thor avoiding all of Morgs attacks and not taking even a single hit in Melee combat is highly unlikely (actually it simply wont happen, thors not captain america here) and with each hit Morg will be inflicting much more damage than vice versa. Morgs axe is also longer so he has the reach advantage as well. Hence not the best matchup for thor given his need to brawl with brawlers.....Against Surfer thor has an effective method of countering his main method of attack (energy blasts) and even on the occassions they do land it would cause much less damage than if he gets axed by Morg.