Cross Genre Nominations #10

Started by marwash2214 pages

there's a huge difference between a waterbender manipulating blood, which is 90% water, and an earthbender manipulating the minerals in the human body, ala Magneto with iron... that's one helluva leap.

Not when your entire body is being covered with the mineral, which is what Colossus does, and again, I never said Toph was actually able to do it. I was just following the "logical" scientific conclusion to its extreme, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Avatar with all the power of his/her past lives behind him/her could do it.

Originally posted by marwash22
there's a huge difference between a waterbender manipulating blood, which is 90% water, and an earthbender manipulating the minerals in the human body, ala Magneto with iron... that's one helluva leap.
It's really not that much of a leap.

However toph couldn't do it. She needs to see them with her seismic sense, which is kind of impossible with them being distended in liquid or other soft materieals that dampen vibrations.

Though The "refined earth" was merely one way to explain the chemical composition of metal in a world without the knowledge of chemical compositions.

Carbon is something that enhances the strength of steel. Pure carbon can be found in the form of coal or diamonds. both of which are VERY susceptible to earth bending.

And we already know that colossus is susceptible to ferrokenisis. Which indicates that his metal form still has some of the properties of regular metal, such as iron content.

Originally posted by Creshosk
It's really not that much of a leap.

However toph couldn't do it. She needs to see them with her seismic sense, which is kind of impossible with them being distended in liquid or other soft materieals that dampen vibrations.

She may be able to. She's shown that can use her seismic sense to determine when someone is lying by "seeing" their hearbeat. It would probably take even more concentration than it does to metalbend, though, and I doubt Colossus would just sit there and let her touch him to figure out how he works.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
She may be able to. She's shown that can use her seismic sense to determine when someone is lying by "seeing" their hearbeat. It would probably take even more concentration than it does to metalbend, though, and I doubt Colossus would just sit there and let her touch him to figure out how he works.
The heart beat gives off an audible vibration, but her lie detecting works no better than our polygraphs. As Azula showed if you remain calm then there would be no difference in a person's heart beat.

Much like Daredevils power, being able to sense the vibration doesn't mean being able to control said vibration.

That's a good point, I forgot about that. 👆

Cresh, what exactly are you getting at concerning the heartbeat thing?

Originally posted by marwash22
Cresh, what exactly are you getting at concerning the heartbeat thing?
Stress and nervousness cause an increase in the heartbeat. Such things occur naturally when a person lies.

So with the quickening of the heart beat only indicates a nervousness or stress, it does not indicate that a person is lieing.

Toph could "lie detect" because she could "hear" a person's heartbeat. But being able to hear the heart doesn't mean she could do anything to manipulate it. Because its a heart beat and not the individual minerals that she could sense.

well toph was bending medal like it was straight up rock toward the end of the series.

and i say anikan and obie wan vs wolverine and sabes in a football stadium. start on opposite 45 yard line.

The Jedi have no way to keep Logan down.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
The Jedi have no way to keep Logan down.
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force pull + Saber slash = decap.
Spite thread.

Originally posted by marwash22
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force pull + Saber slash = decap.
Spite thread.

Negatory on the decap. If other forms of energy couldn't cause a separation of the bones in 616 on multiple occasions a lightsaber will likewise be unable to separate the bones.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Not when your entire body is being covered with the mineral, which is what Colossus does, and again, I never said Toph was actually able to do it. I was just following the "logical" scientific conclusion to its extreme, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Avatar with all the power of his/her past lives behind him/her could do it.
actually no, that girl bends the ore inside the iron, colossus has been likened to the element osmium and organic steel which is heavily refined iron, and colossus' body is extremely more durable than either of those elements (steel being mostly iron)

i doubt she can make him move against his will

Originally posted by Creshosk
Negatory on the decap. If other forms of energy couldn't cause a separation of the bones in 616 on multiple occasions a lightsaber will likewise be unable to separate the bones.
huh? are you one of those people who think a lightsaber wont cut adamantium?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
actually no, that girl bends the ore inside the iron, colossus has been likened to the element osmium and organic steel which is heavily refined iron, and colossus' body is extremely more durable than either of those elements (steel being mostly iron)

i doubt she can make him move against his will

If she were able to, and I'm not saying she could, It'd probably take all her concentration and eventually he'd be able to break free. She wouldn't have the stamina for a prolonged power struggle. As awsome as her slowing the sinking library was we no real way to quantify the feat (libraries weight, how much force wan shi tong was exhibiting on its decent, etc). But it did put a significant strain on her.

Originally posted by marwash22
huh? are you one of those people who think a lightsaber wont cut adamantium?

Since it has failed to cut certain metals in the SWU then there's no proof that it will cut through adamantium.

Originally posted by marwash22
huh? are you one of those people who think a lightsaber wont cut adamantium?
Primary adamantium has exhibited exceptional endurance against thermal energy. The lightsaber does not cut all metals it encounters. such as mandalorian iron phrik and cortosis.

From what we've seen of Adamantium not being effected by high levels of either thermal or radioactive energy it'd be safe to assume that a lightsaber, being a particle beam weapon would be unable to cut it.

Edit: beskar. The name has slipped my mind temporarily.

Originally posted by marwash22
huh? are you one of those people who think a lightsaber can cut adamantium?

I concur.

You didn't see the edit?