When has anyone ever tried to cut adamantium with a blade made of pure heat? Being resistant to extreme does not equate to being resistant to the concentrated form of the same heat.
Luke Cage is resistant to extreme heat but a laser will go through his ass like a hot knife through butter.
Also, as it pertains to that fight, it's still spite because Wolverine would never be able to get close to a Jedi.
Do you think lightsabers can cut juggernaut too?
Originally posted by marwash22When has a lightsaber ever cut beskar, cortosis or phrik? okay, phrik can be cut but it takes a lot longer...
When has anyone ever tried to cut adamantium with a blade made of pure heat? Being resistant to extreme does not equate to being resistant to the concentrated form of the same heat.
And a lightsaber isn't "Pure heat" its a particle weapon. Meaning that aside from the heat there is a stream of particles being projected out to a magnetic containment field. You make it sound like its just a blow torch.
Originally posted by Creshosknah, you're being ultra critical and nitpicking the smallest details, as per usual. I figured you knew what a lightsaber was and didn't feel the need to speak as if you were an idiot, you clearly knew wtf i meant.
When has a lightsaber ever cut beskar, cortosis or phrik? okay, phrik can be cut but it takes a lot longer...And a lightsaber isn't "Pure heat" its a particle weapon. Meaning that aside from the heat there is a stream of particles being projected out to a magnetic containment field. You make it sound like its just a blow torch.
As it pertains to what materials can't be cut by a saber in the Star Wars universe... you have no proof that those materials aren't far beyond adamantium. Really, it's a matter of opinion and this shit would just be one giant cluster-phuck of speculative back and forth... no thanks! Believe what you will and i'll do the same.
Anyhow, like i already said, it's spite because even if a saber can't cut adamantium, Logan has no way to get close.
Originally posted by marwash22You have no proof that those materials ARE far beyond adamantium.
nah, you're being ultra critical and nitpicking the smallest details, as per usual. I figured you knew what a lightsaber was and didn't feel the need to speak as if you were an idiot, you clearly knew wtf i meant.As it pertains to what materials can't be cut by a saber in the Star Wars universe... you have no proof that those materials aren't far beyond adamantium. Really, it's a matter of opinion and this shit would just be one giant cluster-phuck of speculative back and forth... no thanks! Believe what you will and i'll do the same.
Anyhow, like i already said, it's spite because even if a saber can't cut adamantium, Logan has no way to get close.
Their mere existence proves that a lightsaber while one of the most awesome weapons ever, is not godly.
What you have is a lightsaber failing to cut through a metal vs a metal that has survived insane amounts of heat and radiation intact.
And yes, I know fully well what a lightsaber is. Please don't make me point out my name.
I agree with you that Wolverine would not be able to approach them.
Originally posted by marwash22
nah, you're being ultra critical and nitpicking the smallest details, as per usual. I figured you knew what a lightsaber was and didn't feel the need to speak as if you were an idiot, you clearly knew wtf i meant.As it pertains to what materials can't be cut by a saber in the Star Wars universe... you have no proof that those materials aren't far beyond adamantium. Really, it's a matter of opinion and this shit would just be one giant cluster-phuck of speculative back and forth... no thanks! Believe what you will and i'll do the same.
Anyhow, like i already said, it's spite because even if a saber can't cut adamantium, Logan has no way to get close.
people who can destroy a planet with a punch can't even bend a needle made of adamantium.
Originally posted by CreshoskSee what i mean about the cluster phuck of speculation.
You have no proof that those materials ARE far beyond adamantium.
Originally posted by amnesiaWTF does physical strength have to do with this conversation? Your example does not correlate.
people who can destroy a planet with a punch can't even bend a needle made of adamantium.
Originally posted by marwash22But since we have proof of the existence of metals that detract from a lightsabers power and proven levels of durability for the adamantium. you're comiting something akin to the "no true scotsman" fallacy by saying that adamantium has never encountered something similar to a lightsaber. When the lightsaber has encountered and failed at something similar to adamantium.
See what i mean about the cluster phuck of speculation.
Originally posted by marwash22Resistence of kinetic energy and applied force.
WTF does physical strength have to do with this conversation? Your example does not correlate.
Originally posted by Creshoskgtfo with the fallacy shit... i swear wiki is the worst thing ever for people who wanna come off as more intelligent than they actually are. There's a fallacy for everything, that crap is weak. 🙄
But since we have proof of the existence of metals that detract from a lightsabers power and proven levels of durability for the adamantium. you're comiting something akin to the "no true scotsman" fallacy by saying that adamantium has never encountered something similar to a lightsaber. When the lightsaber has encountered and failed at something similar to adamantium.
But you see, you have no proof (there's no way to prove it either way) that Adamantium is anything near the materials in the Star Wars universe... so saying that adamantium is akin to said material, is an incomplete comparison fallacy... see what i did there?!
I dunno how you got me to continue this inane conversation.sneer
Originally posted by CreshoskWhich means what, in relation to our conversation about whether or not a weapon that DOES NOT use applied force, can cut through adamantium?
Resistence of kinetic energy and applied force.
That's like saying, because i can't punch through marble, i also can't cut through it with a laser.
Originally posted by marwash22Actually I took philosophy and debate classes in high school and in college.
gtfo with the fallacy shit... i swear wiki is the worst thing ever for people who wanna come off as more intelligent than they actually are. There's a fallacy for everything, that crap is weak. 🙄
Originally posted by marwash22Technically given the established level of survival that adamantium has seen burden of proof is on you to prove that those materials are on par with adamantium. and mentioning a lightsqaber is circular reasoning since that's the central point of the argument.
But you see, you have no proof (there's no way to prove it either way) that Adamantium is anything near the materials in the Star Wars universe...
Originally posted by marwash22Yup. you said something extremely retarded.
so saying that adamantium is akin to said material, is an incomplete comparison fallacy... see what i did there?!
Originally posted by marwash22You apparently don't understand what a lightsaber is or what radiation is or what particle weapons are. Which is it and I'll explain it to you.
I dunno how you got me to continue this inane conversation.sneerWhich means what, in relation to our conversation about whether or not a weapon that DOES NOT use applied force, can cut through adamantium?
Or perhaps its simple kinetic energy you don't comprehend?
Originally posted by marwash22Not a very apt comparison. seeing has how a laser applies the force of the photon it projects at such a higher amount of force over a much tinier area in comparison with the lower amount of force over a greater area of your fist.
That's like saying, because i can't punch through marble, i also can't cut through it with a laser.
Originally posted by marwash22It's a valid question though the answer doesn't point in the direction that X hopes it might.
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If a lightsaber were just projecting heat and light then the lightsabers would pass through each other.
However the magnetic field which stops the particle beam from going off to uncontrolled distances is what repeals each other.
So unfortunatly its magnetic force rather than kinetic force.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotis there such a thing scientifically as a hard light construct? I know its all fiction, but Star Wars universe seems to try to at least provide a scientific basis for most of its technology.
Interesting. I was just running under the assumption that it was like a hard light construct.