The Kraken versus Cloverfield...

Funny how at the end of the credits in Cloverfield, that guy says "It's still alive" and the director says that Clover isn't. If it's dead, why have the director let the character say it isn't? If only we took a character's word over a director's. That way, the debate can keep on going.

Originally posted by omgchos
He was still walkin around when the credits rolled.

Originally posted by omgchos
U dont see anything at the end of Cloverfield. They drop some bombs then the camera gets crushed by rubble. Then the credits role.

😕 So the creature WASN'T walking? You say the creature was walking around when the credits were rolling...and yet there was nothing after the credits to suggest it was alive. 😬

Originally posted by KingD19
Well actually, the point is...if the guy who makes the movie says that the creature dies at the end of the movie....by default the thing is dead. If I'm the boss of a company, and I say you're fired at the end of the day...at 5 o'clock you're done.

We didn't see it, but that didn't mean it didn't die...it meant it died, but the camera got crushed before it died.

And they messed up the story, but the Kraken still was powerful enough to easily, and single handedly destroy every Titan...and the gods could do nothing to harm it.

Like i said i didnt see the new one. I was under the impression that it wasnt gonna be that dissimilar from the old one. But it turns out wheneever someone remakes a movie they may as well have given it a different title. And i did say if all this BS about the kraken being a part of hades or w/e is true than he wins.

Originally posted by steverules_2
😕 So the creature WASN'T walking? You say the creature was walking around when the credits were rolling...and yet there was nothing after the credits to suggest it was alive. 😬

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Funny how at the end of the credits in Cloverfield, that guy says "It's still alive" and the director says that Clover isn't. If it's dead, why have the director let the character say it isn't? If only we took a character's word over a director's. That way, the debate can keep on going.

Originally posted by omgchos
Nothing to suggest it was dead either. Ur saying nothing after the camera broke means its dead. I dont see how thats proof that it died. Just cuz the director said it was dead means nothing. As my point about cast away showed you. A director can say anything about a movie after the fact. But if i mad a Robinson Caruso vs. Cast Away thread..... i could use the Satalite Phone that the director said was in the package. BEcause we never see the satalite phone, we cant use it in a movie vs. thread.

Yes but you were being a hypocrite...you were saying the creature was alive and yet we never saw that it was alive and yet you claimed that it was wrong to say the creature was dead because we never saw it die. I can see at two ways of suggesting the creature was dead but both connect to each other so could be one, but here we go:

1) They blew up the city and we saw that the creature WASN'T immune to military weapons, they did harm it so one big ass explosion that can take out a city I'm sure could take out Clover
2) The fact that the creature screamed in pain when the bomb went off could be seen as a fact that the creature died when it went off

Now I could also the director saying the creature was dead as a suggestion/hint towards the creature being dead but you won't accept that so there's no point.

I never said he was 100% alive. But the fact that you dont see him die, is much more proof to him being alive, than him being dead. And i dont even know why ur still trying to convince me when ive already conceded that the Kraken wins. I mean when you make a movie where the kraken is some ultimate, titan killing hades spawn thing, then whats the point of arguing against it. And if you're gonna twist words and make accusations of hypocracy, then theres no point arguing with you. Especially when the argument is already over. If anything we should agree that remakes suck. And that Cloverfield kind of sucked too. Because the director doesnt know how to bring closure to a film properly.

I still wanna see what that things mommy looks like, but first, I was under the impression that nothing could kill the Kraken.

I said that a while ago. Cuz i havent seen the remake. And it turns out they made the Kraken somehow better than the gods or some shit. I already said he won. But they keep trying to convince me that Clovey is dead in the film.

Yeah, in the remake they made it look like only Medusa's head can kill it, but at the same time, they didn't have the technology they have now, so can the Kraken be nuked? I don't know man, I just work here, haha. Who's the bigger beast out of these two? I hardly remember Cloverfield.

I dont even know but from what i've bin hearing the Kraken is like 500 feet or something. And Clovey is like 250.

Yeah, from what I remember, Clovey was as tall as a skyscraper, but the Kraken was pretty massive. I don't think the remake of Clash even showed where his body ends, did it?

Dunno. Didnt see it. But i guess he was chillin in some oceanic trench. The Abyss status.

Lookin' at the first video posted of the Kraken, he's a big b*tch. He has a protective husk that retracts from his back to his chest, so he's got defense as well as size on his side. His tentacles are enough to choke the shit out of anything that's choke-able sized. Unless we pull the: "Oh, if we didn't see him choke a b*tch onscreen, he can't possibly be able to do so, even though he has dozens of tentacles"-card that is so fondly waved around in some threads floatin' around here. So yeah, that's a win for this guy in my book.

Yeah Kraken wins. Like i bin sayin.

Oh, you have, haha. I just got here, started postin' randomely.

'Sall good lol.

Fully reading this thread, who's goin' for Clovey's side? This shit was decided before it even started. I'd like to hear some good Clovey side arguments.

Well i figured since i had seen the origional clash, i could confidently post that Clovey stood a chance. But all i got in return was that clovey was dead somehow and the Remake Kraken is the most ultimate thing ever in a movie........ somehow.

Originally posted by omgchos
I never said he was 100% alive. But the fact that you dont see him die, is much more proof to him being alive, than him being dead. And i dont even know why ur still trying to convince me when ive already conceded that the Kraken wins. I mean when you make a movie where the kraken is some ultimate, titan killing hades spawn thing, then whats the point of arguing against it. And if you're gonna twist words and make accusations of hypocracy, then theres no point arguing with you. Especially when the argument is already over. If anything we should agree that remakes suck. And that Cloverfield kind of sucked too. Because the director doesnt know how to bring closure to a film properly.

Hey I agree, I think that Kraken wins too. I didn't mind cloverfield and believe the ending kinda ruined it for me and as for the remake of COTT well...I prefer the original much, much more.