Mario vs Dante

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
This is a rather uninformed opinion.

Gameplay mechanics aren't valid arguments.

Mario drops a ****ing castle on him, y'know, after turning off all of Dante's abilities with his omniversal power. 😐

Actually, it's an informed an accurate opinion... it just happens not to be predicated on nostalgia and Nintendo bias, so you might not like it.

I guess we are saying the star is useless as well if we are completely ignoring "gameplay mechanics"? Cool, this is an even bigger stomp for Dante than I originally thought.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Actually, it's an informed an accurate opinion... it just happens not to be predicated on nostalgia and Nintendo bias, so you might not like it.

I guess we are saying the star is useless as well if we are completely ignoring "gameplay mechanics"? Cool, this is an even bigger stomp for Dante than I originally thought.

Also, TVtropes says DMC3 is noncanon, any verification on this?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Someone hasn't played a Mario game in a very long time. Mario is an obscenely powerful character with feats that outmatch Dante's by a wide margin and a variety of tools so borked the ridiculousness is perfectly suited to the source material.

Also, TVtropes says DMC3 is noncanon, any verification on this?

As far as I know, other than puzzle/party games, the only Mario games I haven't at least tried were on the ones on the Virtual Boy. Mario isn't even in the same (Mario) galaxy as Dante power wise. Mario had a dues ex machina power that was designed to specifically counter one distinct threat... this will not help him against Dante. He can't win. He stands no chance.

First I've heard about it, not sure why it wouldn't have been canon.

^ A fan that thinks the new DmC takes over 3's place?

Originally posted by The Scenario
Because yes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLJuveOm7fs#t=45s

Greatest thing ever. Skip to 3:30 to avoid the build up.

I somehow doubt Dante can really hurt Mario when he can be launched out a cannon at the moon and be fine.

Or tank this massive bomb.

Mario being a lower level toonforcer is enough to ensure he won't get killed.

He was also temporarily knocked out by two bolts from Sir Grodus, bolts that are in-game < Bowsers flame breath in damage. Another inconsistency.

Sparda dragon bypasses defense anyhow, a nice lil trick.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Someone hasn't played a Mario game in a very long time. Mario is an obscenely powerful character with feats that outmatch Dante's by a wide margin and a variety of tools so borked the ridiculousness is perfectly suited to the source material.

Also, TVtropes says DMC3 is noncanon, any verification on this?

Originally posted by Phanteros
No I think you got it confused with 2.

/ignores wank.

So, answers to time stops and multiversal levels of powah? If Mario sets a castle on Dante, does anyone honestly believe he can regenerate? >=)

Mario can't lift a castle.

Assuming Kerrigan isn't injured by shots from Siege Tanks. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Mario can't lift a castle.

Assuming Kerrigan isn't injured by shots from Siege Tanks. 😖hifty:

*amusingly awaits someone to bring up T00/\/F0RC3!!!!1 against that feat*

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Mario actually does that in a cutscene. Kerrigan's a terrible comparison. 😐

Originally posted by The Scenario
I somehow doubt Dante can really hurt Mario when he can be launched out a cannon at the moon and be fine.

Or tank this massive bomb.

Apart from the fact the cannon does not seem to emit much of an explosion or many major forces at all, barely even a recoil and the fact mario moves at such a slow speed. Clearly little physical force is evidence since not a speck of moon dust is stirred on Mario's landing. He does not even make a dent when you would have at least expected a crator.

It looks like that bomb just discharges dust and smoke, ala smoke bomb hence their just dark. Not that a large bomb necesserily means its more powerful than a smaller one.

Also a castle? I think Dantes been impacted with more than simple stone blocks, a castle is just a lot of them and taking into account Dantes size, the whole weight of the castle would be irrelevent so only a small area of the castle would be hitting him. Knowing dante, he would just slice through the bottom of the castle as it comes towards him then simply stand atop it before coming out with a cheesey line like he does.

nope

-Purity Heart is only a failsafe to the Chaos Hearts powers. Useless in a battle.

-The effects are not instant. It takes some time for the effect to happen. For someone thats faster than Blek and doesn't suffer from PIC it'd be a breeze to avoid it's nulling.

-The Purity Heart can only be formed/Pure Hearts effect can only be used when ''Four heroes unite.'' I can see... one Mario.

-A showing of true love is needed to use its powers. Like when Blumeire and Timpani's love activated it by getting married. AKA not happening.

The time power iirc only works some of of the time. If not i still only lasts for a short while. Compared to Dante's which lasts much longer, has no backfire and can activate faster. [By both activation speed and that Dante is much faster]

Purity Heart is dropped and Mario's Time powers are < Dante's. There, answers.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Apart from the fact the cannon does not seem to emit much of an explosion or many major forces at all, barely even a recoil and the fact mario moves at such a slow speed. Clearly little physical force is evidence since not a speck of moon dust is stirred on Mario's landing. He does not even make a dent when you would have at least expected a crator.

Mario's made of paper. Literally, he can turn into a paper airplane or just turn sideways to disappear. He wouldn't impact very hard anyway, as there's little mass there. However, the bomb still has enough force to send him to the moon, yet failed to scratch him.

It looks like that bomb just discharges dust and smoke, ala smoke bomb hence their just dark. Not that a large bomb necesserily means its more powerful than a smaller one.

There is no such thing as a smoke bob-omb and those have never existed. The bob-omb blew him out of a dungeon, without hurting him at all. He was deep in a mine, and the explosion sent him back to the beginning. Obviously quite a lot of force there as well.

How well does Dante hold up to against soul stealing again? Or getting sealed inside a card?

Sir Grodus' bolts still knocked him out. And Bowser's flame breath did him in too.

Dealing with Soul Eater enemies I guess.

Why does Dante get so many threads when he doesn't even originate from a game? He's from a Medieval poem.

Originally posted by Kosmic King
Why does Dante get so many threads when he doesn't even originate from a game? He's from a Medieval poem.

facepalm

Originally posted by Nemesis X
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