Its also physically impossible for Mario to shoot fire at stuff, or Ganondorf to fast-freeze an entire island, or Kefka to beam-spam villages out of existence. Thats the good thing about 'magic', it lets you do things which would otherwise be impossible.There's a GREAT difference between doing things which are simply naturally impossible, and physicly impossible. It is physicly possible for fire to exist, it is physicly possible for islands to freeze, it is NOT physicly possible for something to be below AZ without fast freezing everything around it. Guess what? The things in DMC that are supposedly AZ don't do ANYTHING close to that, they're just chilly. But yeah, what stops Bowser from ramming a galaxy into DMC-earth?
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeHe was indeed, also as a sidenote: Despite their small size, those planets still maintained about the same level of gravity as say, Earth, which means their actual mass would be similar. 😐 So, maybe they're just really dense.
I still call 'em planets as there were to my knowledge other planets in the game that small. But if you want to call them asteroids or something, fine.I maintain Bowser was building himself a Galaxy in the Center of the Universe.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There's a GREAT difference between doing things which are simply naturally impossible, and physicly impossible. It is physicly possible for fire to exist, it is physicly possible for islands to freeze, it is NOT physicly possible for something to be below AZ without fast freezing everything around it. Guess what? The things in DMC that are supposedly AZ don't do ANYTHING close to that, they're just chilly. But yeah, what stops Bowser from ramming a galaxy into DMC-earth?
And again, if the creators want there to be a 'beyond absolute zero' in their universe, theres a beyond absolute zero in their universe. Same way Emperor Joker can make 2+2=Fish in one comic, even if its logically impossible. In fiction, the laws of reality, no reality itself is what the creator of that fiction wants it to be. And next to that your opinion doesn't mean shit.
IDK, what stopped him from ramming one into Mario, or the Mushroom kingdom?
It's not an opinion. Unless DMCverse's laws of physics are ENTIRELY different from ours, it is simply not possible. Also, Emperor Joker was a high end reality warper, he could actually change the laws of physics, Frosts cannot.
Here's the great part, if the DMCverse's physics are different from ours, no one in that universe has any feats.
It's not an opinion.
Are you claiming to know how the DMCverse works better than the people who made it? Don't be ignorant, nobody even 'knows' how our universe works. Even Gravity is just a theory. When you say, 'this cannot be', you are actually saying 'to my knowledge, this cannot be.'
And in this case, they created the ****ing thing. Its their fictional world. They can make it however they like, and your opinion on matters doesn't change that. Their Authority>Yours in the matter I'm afraid.
Also, Emperor Joker was a high end reality warper, he could actually change the laws of physics, Frosts cannot.
How do you know something else didn't.
Originally posted by NephthysExcellent, so you have no counterpoint.
Are you claiming to know how the DMCverse works better than the people who made it? Don't be ignorant, nobody even 'knows' how our universe works. Even Gravity is just a theory. When you say, 'this cannot be', you are actually saying 'to my knowledge, this cannot be.'And in this case, they created the ****ing thing. Its their fictional world. They can make it however they like, and your opinion on matters doesn't change that. Their Authority>Yours in the matter I'm afraid.
How do you know something else didn't.
Either the Frosts are not AZ or below, or no one in DMC has any viable feats.
He does have a point. If the physics and natural laws in DMC are clearly different from ours why do we compare it to ours? It's kinda like a statement saying "This universe does not have physics like ours."
It eliminates coolforce arguments in DMC, but also invalidates everything ever done in the games.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeThis.
He does have a point. If the physics and natural laws in DMC are clearly different from ours why do we compare it to ours? It's kinda like a statement saying "This universe does not have physics like ours."It eliminates coolforce arguments in DMC, but also invalidates everything ever done in the games.
For Frosts to be beyond AZ, the laws of physics have to be different, and if they are, no feat in DMC is quantifiable. Ever. Dante dodges bullets? They could be slow as ass. Too fast for the eye to see? the speed of light might be different, or we process slower. Ect... Stop's saviour's fist? Rock in DMC could weigh as much as styrofoam.
KMC fights go with a universal equaliser. The combatants can do everything they can do in their universe as if they were there even if they aren't. Its why Neo can fight battles as if he's in the Matrix, Force users can use the Force even though it doesn't exist wherever they are, Magic users can do the same etc etc.
For Frosts to be beyond AZ, the laws of physics have to be different, and if they are, no feat in DMC is quantifiable. Ever. Dante dodges bullets? They could be slow as ass. Too fast for the eye to see? the speed of light might be different, or we process slower. Ect... Stop's saviour's fist? Rock in DMC could weigh as much as styrofoam.
Wow, that sounds almost Nihilist. Now where have I heard that before? 😉
KMC fights go with a universal equaliser. The combatants can do everything they can do in their universe as if they were there even if they aren't. Its why Neo can fight battles as if he's in the Matrix, Force users can use the Force even though it doesn't exist wherever they are, Magic users can do the same etc etc.
Nah, it's a neutralverse, where the laws of physics are observed and all powers function as they're intended to. 😐 Otherwise everytime Mario's in a thread he gets to bring Marioverse shenanigans with him. Invisible floating coin blocks and shit.
Wow, that sounds almost Nihilist. Now where have I heard that before?You've heard it from me whenever someone tries to ignore the laws of physics. It's like a slippery slope without being a fallacy. Basicly, if you change the laws of physics for a character, rather than do the logical thing and observe the character within them, then you invalidate everything in fiction ever, because "it could be different!", and if it's different, it is not quantifiable.
Nah, it's a neutralverse, where the laws of physics are observed and all powers function as they're intended to. no expression Otherwise everytime Mario's in a thread he gets to bring Marioverse shenanigans with him. Invisible floating coin blocks and shit.
No. Neutral landscape unless specified. Equalised reality unless specified. Or Galen Marek never wins a damn fight becuase being cut off from the Force kills him. And Magic doesn't exist. And Starpower doesn't exist etc etc.
You've heard it from me whenever someone tries to ignore the laws of physics. It's like a slippery slope without being a fallacy. Basicly, if you change the laws of physics for a character, rather than do the logical thing and observe the character within them, then you invalidate everything in fiction ever, because "it could be different!", and if it's different, it is not quantifiable
Nothing is quantifiable. You have to make-believe that it is or this debating game won't be fun. Just assume everythings normal except for the things which aren't i.e. There being a 'beyond absolute zero' in the DMCverse..
I figured we assumed every verse followed the same physics unless given reason to believe otherwise. Below absolute zero seems like a reason otherwise.
We are not talking about the fight. We're talking about what we used to quantify the feats. As since we are not told Mario physics are different from our universe, we assume so. Which is why him leaping four times his height with ease is impressive. Below absolute zero is like a huge middle finger.