Bowser v.s. DMCverse.

Started by ScreamPaste10 pages

Originally posted by Nephthys
No. Neutral landscape unless specified. Equalised reality unless specified. Or Galen Marek never wins a damn fight becuase being cut off from the Force kills him. And Magic doesn't exist. And Starpower doesn't exist etc etc.
You didn't read, it syas "all powers work as intended" IE, Galen brings the force with him, but he doesn't bring a different gravity constant or strong atomic force with him.

''running FTL, timestop, reality warping, teleporting without a planets amount of energy, soul powers''
All impossible by all known laws. But no one bats an eyelid. Only when it comes to 0k..

See, this guy gets it.

Re-posted if you missed it: Nothing is quantifiable. You have to make-believe that it is or this debating game won't be fun. Just assume everythings normal except for the things which aren't i.e. There being a 'beyond absolute zero' in the DMCverse..

I don't think those break logic. Less motion than no motion does.

Originally posted by BloodRain
''running FTL, timestop, reality warping, teleporting without a planets amount of energy, soul powers''
All impossible by all known laws. But no one bats an eyelid. Only when it comes to 0k..
I actually raged about running faster than light. Ask NemeBro, I ranted on msn about why it's retarded. Time stop is theoreticly possible, there's no observable reason for why we perceive time the way we do and stuff. Reality warping is also theoreticly possible. There's actually evidence the fundamental constants are changing. 😐

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I don't think those break logic. Less motion than no motion does.

Actually they all do. Eg travelling back in time can never happen, human size object cant move faster then light etc
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I actually raged about running faster than light. Ask NemeBro, I ranted on msn about why it's retarded. Time stop is theoreticly possible, there's no observable reason for why we perceive time the way we do and stuff. Reality warping is also theoreticly possible. There's actually evidence the fundamental constants are changing. 😐

Yet there's nothing you can do to go against FTL users as that characters universe allows it to. And that can happen without the reason of 'magic' :/. Read up on timestoping before good points were made to why an individual cannot do it, and until scientists find out that the anything can be rewritten, done or created with a thought reality warping is not possible either.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Actually they all do. Eg travelling back in time can never happen, human size object cant move faster then light etc

Yet there's nothing you can do to go against FTL users as that characters universe allows it to. And that can happen without the reason of 'magic' :/. Read up on timestoping before good points were made to why an individual cannot do it, and until scientists find out that the anything can be rewritten, done or created with a thought reality warping is not possible either.

Stephen Hawking disagrees with you. Worm holes, son. Worm holes.

The power of reality warping puts you above the laws of the universe. So at least that makes sense.

This is still total bullshit. The only difference between below absolute zero and Yoshi's throw is that one is stated while the other is seen.

I've got a grand idea.Let's see this ice then and note how it doesn't support it's own statement.

''However, according to general relativity it would not be possible to use a wormhole to travel back to a time earlier than when the wormhole was first converted into a time machine by accelerating one of its two mouths'' Then again it is actually unknown to if the laws would let things go back so that's meh, but time stop from a person and the other ones cant be done. Back to the topic.

Official statement [like the pokedex] > calculation of a faulty scene. :/ I don't see what you're getting at by comparing the two.

You do that, and when youre finished ill point back to the 0k statement and then to Neph's last post.

Now, to take the carrot away from the donkey. Bowser can't take 'any' ice attack, doesn't even have to be 0k. Any would do him in.

Is it possible for a black hole, however large, to exist on a planet? 😑

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Is it possible for a black hole, however large, to exist on a planet? 😑
Theoreticly yes, and are you referring to the second (third?) time Bowser survvied a blackhole in Bowser's Inside Story?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Theoreticly yes, and are you referring to the second (third?) time Bowser survvied a blackhole in Bowser's Inside Story?

Indeed I am. And theoretically?

Well, yeah, Theoreticly. A blackhole's gravity, like all things, depends on it's mass. You can have a blackhole with less mass than our planet, IF you can create a singularity with that little mass. The reason Stars can do this is because the force of their own implosions basicly hits a point where it cannot be stopped and forms a singularity. Also, a blackhole the size of a marble, IE, with the mass of Earth, would have the same gravity as Earth. So..yeah. Also, it would glow light blue, wierd, eh?

Dammit BloodRain, how do you not see what you're doing? You are taking what is seen as less valid than statements. It's a well established idea that what is seen is not always what is the fact. Laser dodging can be seen because otherwise we wouldn't even know what the **** he's doing. It's like a random Tay Zonday only we can't even see it happen.

And that one Pokemon vs Ultimecia thread. The bullet did not take 4 seconds to reach Ultimecia even though we see it do so. It was a cinematic choice.

So do what I ask or concede the point. Show me this 0K ice so that I can point out how it does not support the statement and therefore invalidates it because for some reason what is seen supersedes the stated all the time.

Edit: HAH, I confused myself.

I know YI has no statements on it. So I think I meant to say that what is seen is always fact, absolutely. <---- not what I argued.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Well, yeah, Theoreticly. A blackhole's gravity, like all things, depends on it's mass. You can have a blackhole with less mass than our planet, IF you can create a singularity with that little mass. The reason Stars can do this is because the force of their own implosions basicly hits a point where it cannot be stopped and forms a singularity. Also, a blackhole the size of a marble, IE, with the mass of Earth, would have the same gravity as Earth. So..yeah. Also, it would glow light blue, wierd, eh?

Well the black holes in the fight seemed to be larger than marbles so it would have a larger gravity than Earth. And this goes without saying but, are you also able to grab hold of the sides of a black hole and blast in somewhere else with a fireball. Light blue is cool so that is an acceptable weird fact.

On an unrelated note, Scott Pilgrim vs The World takes place in Canada and Zelda music plays in the beginning. I thought of the people on here immediately because of it. 😐

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well the black holes in the fight seemed to be larger than marbles so it would have a larger gravity than Earth. And this goes without saying but, are you also able to grab hold of the sides of a black hole and blast in somewhere else with a fireball. Light blue is cool so that is an acceptable weird fact.

On an unrelated note, Scott Pilgrim vs The World takes place in Canada and Zelda music plays in the beginning. I thought of the people on here immediately because of it. 😐

I'm Canadian, and I love Zelda... NOW I HAVE TO SEE IT. DAMN YOU!

Also, Bowser holding onto the edges of a blackhole is a little MEH WIERD, but the hole itself is actually smaller than it seems due to the "vortex" arround it, but yeah, probably larger than a marble, but the mushroom kingdom also isn't on Earth, so technicly the planet could be larger than ours.

Would never argue Bowser can actually hold onto the edges of space without some kind of reality warping amp or something, much like I'd never argue Kratos can actually just randomly not move when he's hit by someone as strong as he is, breaks physics.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I'm Canadian, and I love Zelda... NOW I HAVE TO SEE IT. DAMN YOU!

Also, Bowser holding onto the edges of a blackhole is a little MEH WIERD, but the hole itself is actually smaller than it seems due to the "vortex" arround it, but yeah, probably larger than a marble, but the mushroom kingdom also isn't on Earth, so technicly the planet could be larger than ours.

Would never argue Bowser can actually hold onto the edges of space without some kind of reality warping amp or something, much like I'd never argue Kratos can actually just randomly not move when he's hit by someone as strong as he is, breaks physics.

Just as planned.😖hifty:

If it its any consolation, the main guy isn't playing Zelda. It's one of his friends. A weird little fellow.

And I wouldn't argue it either, I was just confused by it. My vote goes to Bowser for being in a ton more games and having dozens of random powers that should never be brought together.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Dammit BloodRain, how do you not see what you're doing? You are taking what is seen as less valid than statements. It's a well established idea that what is seen is not always what is the fact. Laser dodging can be seen because otherwise we wouldn't even know what the **** he's doing. It's like a random Tay Zonday only we can't even see it happen.

And that one Pokemon vs Ultimecia thread. The bullet did not take 4 seconds to reach Ultimecia even though we see it do so. It was a cinematic choice.

So do what I ask or concede the point. Show me this 0K ice so that I can point out how it does not support the statement and therefore invalidates it because for some reason what is seen supersedes the stated all the time.

Edit: HAH, I confused myself.

I know YI has no statements on it. So I think I meant to say that what is seen is always fact, absolutely. <---- not what I argued.

I... have no idea what to respond to O_o

''what is seen is always fact, absolutely.'' If that's your point then what we 'see' is distance/speed.

I was afraid of that. I confused myself. Shut up. >_>

What you are doing is assuming what is seen always represents the facts in these games. I argued differently.

All you have for this is a statement that it's below AZ, so show me this ice so that I can point out how what we see contradicts it. This invalidates your argument.

Personally I think the technobabble of some stupid moron in an attempt to sound cool should not be taken with much consideration.

What I think NemeBro is saying is: Below AZ = COOLFORCE.

Fortunately, stating only 'Toonforce' as a cop-out is banned in this thread. 313