Pre-Crisis Hal Jordan Vs Monarch

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GLs weren't affected by COIE, IIRC.

Regardless, Hal gets absolutely wrecked here.

We've already seen Monarch utterly stomp multiple GL's, along with Supermen and 51 Captain Atom's.

Countdown: Arena ftw?

Originally posted by Cubey
We've already seen Monarch utterly stomp multiple GL's, along with Supermen and 51 Captain Atom's.

And? We've seen PC Hal take control of the whole JLA. This including Pre-Crisis Superman, MM, etc... Not to mention holding back PC Superman and catching a PC Barry Allen.

He also held the Crime Syndicate in a force bubble. All of them, which also included PC Ultraman.

PC Hal stomps. He can time travel, stop time, have reflexes and speed to catching Flash.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
And? We've seen PC Hal take control of the whole JLA. This including Pre-Crisis Superman, MM, etc... Not to mention holding back PC Superman and catching a PC Barry Allen.

He also held the Crime Syndicate in a force bubble. All of them, which also included PC Ultraman.

Originally posted by Harbinger
So "PC" Hal > a room full of GLs, Supermen, and 51 versions of Captain Atom combined? Because he needs to be in order to beat Monarch.

Most of those guys were featless, anyway. Plus, Hal could do a lot of other things, other than energy blasts or constructs. The man was very versatile. More so than Monarch.

Didn't Pre Crisis CA beat Pre Crisis Hal?

Monarch became significantly stronger after absorbing the alternate CAs' powers to the point that he was able to manhandle SBP (minus his monologuing) and destroy an entire universe after Prime breached his suit. Hal may be more versatile, but I don't think he has nearly the firepower to drop someone on Monarch's level.

Monarch's energy manipulation makes him versatile as well.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Monarch became significantly stronger after absorbing the alternate CAs' powers to the point that he was able to manhandle SBP (minus his monologuing) and destroy an entire universe after Prime breached his suit. Hal may be more versatile, but I don't think he has nearly the firepower to drop someone on Monarch's level.

Do you think Monarch can resist a soul drain? Or channel his energy right back at him.

Monarch stomps hard.

How does he stomp? Hal's fought universal creatures before.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
How does he stomp? Hal's fought universal creatures before.

and Monarch stomps those.

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't Pre Crisis CA beat Pre Crisis Hal?

That wasn't Pre-Crisis.

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't Pre Crisis CA beat Pre Crisis Hal?

99% sure that Nathaniel Adam didn't exist Pre-Crisis.

none of those featless guys did anything Hal could or did any versatility to put Monarch down. Hal won't make that mistake.

There is nothing Surfer can do that Hal can't or hasn't accomplished. His feats are better than classic Surfer's.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
99% sure that Nathaniel Adam didn't exist Pre-Crisis.

He came out in 1960. Charlton years.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He came out in 1960. Charlton years.

He said that Nathaniel Adam didn't exist Pre-Crisis, which is true. Pre-Crisis Captain Atom was Allen Adam.

Try reading wikipedia a little more carefully next time.