Pre-Crisis Hal Jordan Vs Monarch

Started by Johnny Sorrow2 pages
Originally posted by Prep-Man
He came out in 1960. Charlton years.

No he didn't. You're talking about Allen Adam, a completely different character.

I didn't say Nathanial Adam exsisted PC. I just said CA came out in 1960. Get it?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I didn't say Nathanial Adam exsisted PC. I just said CA came out in 1960. Get it?

Johnny Sorrow stated that Nathaniel Adam didn't exist in the Pre-Crisis era. To which you responded:

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He came out in 1960. Charlton years.

"He (Nathaniel Adam)" did not come out in 1960.

Nice back pedal, though.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I didn't say Nathanial Adam exsisted PC. I just said CA came out in 1960. Get it?

Originally posted by batdude123
He said that Nathaniel Adam didn't exist Pre-Crisis, which is true. Pre-Crisis Captain Atom was [b]Allen Adam.

Try reading wikipedia a little more carefully next time. [/B]

I'm just briefly scanning threads, I just meant a CA exsisted in the 60's.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
There is nothing Surfer can do that Hal can't or hasn't accomplished. His feats are better than classic Surfer's.
Even if they are .... Which I doubt.... So wanna go at it feat war????? On average I will guarantee you Pre Crisis Hal is not way beyond the Surfer infact I remember going toe to toe few years ago in feat war with Pre Crisis Hal and Surfer.... Of course you will have those punky one time feat from the Pre Crisis era but on average he was not portrayed high that Surfer.

While Monarch stomped a team full of those character.

So what feats exactly puts him above say the Surfer or Superman or Thor?

Originally posted by kgkg
Even if they are .... Which I doubt.... So wanna go at it feat war????? On average I will guarantee you Pre Crisis Hal is not way beyond the Surfer infact I remember going toe to toe few years ago in feat war with Pre Crisis Hal and Surfer.... Of course you will have those punky one time feat from the Pre Crisis era but on average he was not portrayed high that Surfer.

While Monarch stomped a team full of those character.

So what feats exactly puts him above say the Surfer or Superman or Thor?

Who did you have a feat war with? BTW, PC Superman admittes that Hal's power is pretty much limitless. Hal has taken over the JLA a couple times and easily converted their bodies to pure energy to survive a cosmic explosion.

I'm using Desaad's respect thread, BTW. I've seen Surfer's thread and read some of his run and they are practically identical in versatility and power.

Originally posted by Prep-Man Who did you have a feat war with? BTW, PC Superman admittes that Hal's power is pretty much limitless. Hal has taken over the JLA a couple times and easily converted their bodies to pure energy to survive a cosmic explosion.
Don't remember I think it was jrodslam it should be under Surfer vs Hal.... Ya and you know how many times Surfer's power has been stated to be limitless right. And Surfer has been stated on panel to be the one most powerful in the Universe and even the Multiverse... doesn't really mean it's true. I know what Pre Cris Hal has done on average it's nothing that the Surfer can't compete with... Also Pre Crisis Hal has struggled to blow up planets and required extreme will power to achieve what Surfer was doing causally... So he might have one or two feat that can't be replicated but on average Surfer can do what Hal did.

Originally posted by Prep-Man I'm using Desaad's respect thread, BTW. I've seen Surfer's thread and read some of his run and they are practically identical in versatility and power.
Say what?

If you want to have a feat war I'm up for it... There is no way Pre Crisis Hal is way greater than Classic Surfer.

Different writers do different things. I've seen Surfer strugle with things Hal has done effortlessly. Hal has casually transported and moved entire planets with ease and snuffed out stars.

Superman was studying Hal's ring, IIRC. I'd back up Superman who was pretty much a genius back then.

To be fair, i'd give Surfer some wins over Monarch, if he plays it smart.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
To be fair, i'd give Surfer some wins over Monarch, if he plays it smart.
Say what? Are we talking about the same Monarch here?

Prime managed to breach his suit. A PC kryptonian amped. Surfer is not that far off. If he can somehow funnel all the energy and teleport it away, he could win.

Plus, Lord Havok was able to DRAIN his energy. And he didn;t even Know it! That's how you play it smart.

Prime amped with Oan energy > Surfer I would wager.

And I really doubt Surfer would be able to channel a universe busting explosion.

Atom was also an energy/matter manipulator so transmuting tricks woulsn't exactly work.

Originally posted by Prep-Man

To be fair, i'd give Surfer some wins over Monarch, if he plays it smart.

McAeQiLmEYU&feature