Originally posted by Madvillain
Here's my list:1. Thanos (although not earth-based, is Marvel's greatest mind)
2. MODOK
3. The Leader
4. High Evolutionary
5. Mr. Fantastic
6. Kang the Conqueror
7. Mastermind Excello
8. Hank Pym
9. Professor X
10. Apocalypsenotable mention: Arcade
You're putting Prof x and Pym above Apocalypse?
Originally posted by llagrok
You're putting Prof x and Pym above Apocalypse?
They are all roughly the same level. They are all genius-level intellect, and more than likely have the same amount of raw intelligence. Apocalypse just has thousands of years of experience on his side. If he was beyond them by such a great margin, his plans wouldn't be foiled every single time =\
Originally posted by Madvillain
They are all roughly the same level. They are all genius-level intellect, and more than likely have the same amount of raw intelligence. Apocalypse just has thousands of years of experience on his side. If he was beyond them by such a great margin, his plans wouldn't be foiled every single time =\
He's still much much smarter that Xavier is. Xavier just has every other thing on his side: numbers, conviction, versatility and of course the plot.
1. Thanos (although not earth-based, is Marvel's greatest mind) (Cosmic, it said earth only. Though yes, he is the best)
2. MODOK (Nowhere near this high on an actual list.)
3. The Leader (Jobber, not nearly as good as he thinks he is. )
4. High Evolutionary (Cosmic. Not eligible)
5. Mr. Fantastic (Easily top 3.)
6. Kang the Conqueror (Good call. Definitely top 5)
7. Mastermind Excello (Don't know)
8. Dr. Doom (Top 3)
9. Apocalypse (Top 3)
10. Professor X (Maybe top 15.)
Originally posted by Madvillain
Arghh, forgot Doom1. Thanos (although not earth-based, is Marvel's greatest mind)
2. MODOK
3. The Leader
4. High Evolutionary
5. Mr. Fantastic
6. Kang the Conqueror
7. Mastermind Excello
8. Dr. Doom
9. Apocalypse
10. Professor XI think that's more like it.
Galactus is actually Marvel's greatest mind and in terms of sheer intellect Doom is actually slightly above Reed.
Originally posted by Madvillain
They are all roughly the same level. They are all genius-level intellect, and more than likely have the same amount of raw intelligence. Apocalypse just has thousands of years of experience on his side. If he was beyond them by such a great margin, his plans wouldn't be foiled every single time =\
Read any Louise Simonson X-Factor (1986) story. Apocalypse is far more menacing because it appears any short term goal--even losing to X-Factor--fits into his plans.
Here, the X-Factor defeats Apocalypse's Alliance of Evil. However, Apocalypse provides some unusual departing words...
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocend6.png
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocstrongweaknow.png
The X-Factor defeats Apocalypse's Four Horsemen, and foils his plan of destroying New York. Apocalypse then leaves X-Factor his ship and dares them to see if they can handle it. And as he's leaving, notes that the ship will make them a target of people who fear mutants and cause conflict, thus, they are just, again, helping Apocalypse.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocend256.png
