Originally posted by LLLLLinkIt has destroyed raids of 25. For some reason you've all seemed to discounted 25 lvl 80 mages, warriors, druids, warlocks, paladins etc all working together as if they're insignificant.
Well, what is the most durable thing or person that his melee has destroyed?As for the HP, that is what we refer to as a gameplay mechanic, and doesn't hold much weight, I'm afraid.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkThat would be like assuming someone who is intangible in one verse would by majik not be intangible in another verse. If she has magic resistance, fine, if she has not displayed it, then she has none and it will work if that is how WoW magic works (Though it may be a gameplay mechanic).
Well, the argument is that just because it can bypass armor in Warcraft doesn't mean it can bypass all armor of any universe. You understand.Have you not taken the time to think it out, Nemebro?
I have. There is a difference between some stupid ingrates thinking explosives were magic and the ability to warp reality that is inherent in real magic. Although science can in fiction have applications similar to magic.
Although really Samus is far too fast and too powerful for the LK to win.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeHis shockwave attack sends out a ring of damage, not really dodge-able.
He still has to hit Samus. I know for a fact that Samus' armor has taken great physical damage. And though you may have a point about Lich King's magic, but he still has to hit Samus first.Edit: HP depends. Health systems tend to be discarded as they can't be compared to other health systems very well. For instance, Fire Emblem characters only get HP under 100 usually. And the statistics systems of that cannot merge with the ones driving LK's stats. And then you have things like Sonic who can basically take any hit so long as he has a ring on him.
Is there no durability feats for LK?
There are no durability stats but I think it would be silly to assume that Samus can take him down in a single hit... She can't even take some small enemies down in a single hit.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
His shockwave attack sends out a ring of damage, not really dodge-able.There are no durability stats but I think it would be silly to assume that Samus can take him down in a single hit... She can't even take some small enemies down in a single hit.
1. she could just jump...
2. lolgameplay
Originally posted by §P0oONY
It has destroyed raids of 25. For some reason you've all seemed to discounted 25 lvl 80 mages, warriors, druids, warlocks, paladins etc all working together as if they're insignificant.
That's because "Lvl 80" is a gameplay mechanic. The only thing that our minds look for in a post is a feat, such as Akuma busting an island or Wesker dodging bullets.
Stats and the like are discarded as gameplay mechanics that do not reflect the character's true ability. Most of the time, stuff that you see in cutscenes are considered legitimate feats.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkWhen I say lvl 80... I obviously just mean the strongest in the World of Warcraft. The characters on WoW don't have personalities.. or cutscenes so you can't built up a profile. But I've already posted a link to the spells a mage can do... and that is just one class.
That's because "Lvl 80" is a gameplay mechanic. The only thing that our minds look for in a post is a feat, such as Akuma busting an island or Wesker dodging bullets.
Stats and the like are discarded as gameplay mechanics that do not reflect the character's true ability. Most of the time, stuff that you see in cutscenes are considered legitimate feats.
WoW is 99.9999999999999999999999% gameplay mechanic... This is how it is damn near impossible to compare.
Originally posted by NemeBro
That would be like assuming someone who is intangible in one verse would by majik not be intangible in another verse. If she has magic resistance, fine, if she has not displayed it, then she has none and it will work if that is how WoW magic works (Though it may be a gameplay mechanic).I have. There is a difference between some stupid ingrates thinking explosives were magic and the ability to warp reality that is inherent in real magic. Although science can in fiction have applications similar to magic.
Although really Samus is far too fast and too powerful for the LK to win.
Not really. I think you read a little too much into it. I wasn't speaking about this particular scenario. We are both right.
Then you understand what I mean. Would you say that an electric eel uses "magic"? Of course not, because you may understand the fundamentals on how it works. If you are saying that magic can be known by science in all cases, then I invite you to describe the process on how one could warp reality in detail.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeI don't know WoW that well.. I'm getting all my information of a WoW wiki.
We can't prove she's fought most of the smaller enemies. And though we know she can't defeat Ridley in one hit, he's just really powerful.Can you compare his HP to someone else's HP who has durability feats?
The Lich King will have durability feats... I just don't know them
Originally posted by LLLLLinkThere might have been stuff in Warcraft 3... (Arthras (sp?) becoming the Lich King)
This is true. Is there any lore or storyline that tells of any feats he as performed? I'm sure there is something somewhere. You could gather feats from that.
But I don't know... I'm no expert. There is plenty of lore... But I'm not sure there is much on what he has actually done in terms of power that isn't game play.
Originally posted by LLLLLinkNah.
Not really. I think you read a little too much into it. I wasn't speaking about this particular scenario. We are both right.Then you understand what I mean. Would you say that an electric eel uses "magic"? Of course not, because you may understand the fundamentals on how it works. If you are saying that magic can be known by science in all cases, then I invite you to describe the process on how one could warp reality in detail.
No, because it has a perfectly rational scientific explanation. Magic can do shit like defy conservation of matter for instance. Magic can generally not be known by science, but it depends on the verse. However, in fiction, science can sometimes become so advanced it might as well be magic.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Nah.No, because it has a perfectly rational scientific explanation. Magic can do shit like defy conservation of matter for instance. Magic can generally not be known by science, but it depends on the verse. However, in fiction, science can sometimes become so advanced it might as well be magic.
I think we are saying the same thing; just that our thought processes take a totally different route to arrive at the same place.
Anyway, most mages in fiction have to study at a university to learn their craft, which proves that they have a basic knowledge and understanding of what they are doing (although it only applies to that universe). Golden Sun comes to mind, where some people didn't understand how Psynergy worked, but believed it was tribal magic.
Hey, look what I found.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=525216&pagenumber=1
Samus vs. the Lich King.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Hey, look what I found.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=525216&pagenumber=1
Samus vs. the Lich King.
Wow, there were some terrible arguments on the first couple pages. All these titles are being thrown around as if they mean something. Yikes.
Also, here's some Bryyo Data that recorded the Magic vs. Technology war
Originally posted by The ScenarioHave to say having read the entire thread that the Lich King arguments were stronger.
Hey, look what I found.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=525216&pagenumber=1
Samus vs. the Lich King.