Cross Genre Nominations #11

Originally posted by Creshosk
But the fillers are acceptable to use when YOU are the one using them?

Hypocrite.

Except I showed scans to back what I said. Too bad you don't like them. Akira Toriyama's word/work related to his own manga > Yours, mine, Black Bolt Z's, Omega Vision's, Moses's, and everybody else's.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Except I showed scans to back what I said. Too bad you don't like them. Akira Toriyama's word/work related to his own manga > Yours, mine, Black Bolt Z's, Omega Vision's, Moses's, and everybody else's.

You can't. You know why?

Because its not acutally IN the manga.

All you've got is Filler: Read not in the manga. Explaining (Poorly) what happened.

So you're saying that the filler > your opinion?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Hang tough, Blair.

I'm not going to be party to the discussion anymore.

I'm out as well.

So anyone else care to nod Mundus from Devil May Cry vs Marvel Odin. It'll be amusing at least.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Are you arguing that Surfer can't or won't? Because he most certainly could. The question is whether or not he would consider the Z fighters worthy of such an attack.

It doesn't matter either way. Surfer could defeat any DBZ character just with his strength, speed, and cosmic blasts.

W.O.N.T. because of Character.Induced.Stupidity.

Goku and the Z fighters constantly display their speed unlike Silver Surfer. Here is a h1 calculated type argument someone made on another site relating to Goku's speed:

Goku with a powerlevel of around 6,000 traveled Snake Way, a massive road that stretches 1,000,000 km long (621,371 miles) in the course of 2 days.

Which means Goku traveled at 20,833 km per hour, (12,945 mph). Which is roughly Mach 17+. With the use of Goku's technique the Kaioken, he can burst his stats with each usage of Kaioken all the way to Kaioken x4.

(Kaioken x2 = Mach 34+) (Kaioken x3 = Mach 51)

Boosting his speed to a maximum Mach 68+ in the Saiyan Saga.

Now Goku after training in 100G at his arrival on Namek is obviously way faster than himself on Earth using Kaioken x4. So lets assume that instead of being faster (which he is) he is the same speed. So putting Goku at Mach 68+ at base with a powerlevel of 90,000. Goku amping his stats using Kaioken x2 boosting his speed to Mach 136+ (46,279.44 m/s) with a powerlevel of 180,000.

Now for the final, Goku against Freeza. It should be PAINFULLY obvious that Goku was LEGIONS above in speed, strength, etc... after his battle with Ginyu when he faced Freeza. So lets again assume that Goku is Mach 136+ in base form against Freeza (though he should be much faster). Goku while against Freeza BEFORE Super Saiyan could use Kaioken x20.

Which means that if Goku boost himself up using Kaioken x20 his speed would jump from Mach 136 in base form to Mach
2720+. This is Goku's running speed.

I know many of you would assume that power levels don't scale linearly and doesn't scale with speed, well, they don't. I'm not scaling with powerlevels. I'm scaling with Kaioken which does correlate with speed and power.

SSJ Goku running speed would be even faster. Thus the DBZ top tiers being mach 1000+ is bullshit. They're much faster.

Kaioken x20 Goku in the Freeza saga has a running speed of Mach 2720+, ( 925,588.8 m/s).

Now, I'm gonna stop spamming the thread and I suggest you all do too.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
What rocks has goku been hurt by?Video/scans?

You don't know about that scene?

I KNOW about that scene... but you don't?

Certainly you SEEN the show?

Originally posted by TheTyrant
W.O.N.T. because of Character.Induced.Stupidity.

Goku and the Z fighters constantly display their speed unlike Silver Surfer. Here is a h1 calculated type argument someone made on another site relating to Goku's speed:

Now, I'm gonna stop spamming the thread and I suggest you all do too.

Originally posted by Creshosk
facepalm

You don't know about that scene?

I KNOW about that scene... but you don't?

Certainly you SEEN the show?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Seeing it isn't the same as remembering.Could you please show me?

YouTube video

Originally posted by TheTyrant
YouTube video

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Wouldn't that be more of a filler?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yes, which was part of several of my points.

Sorry we are just talking about so many things throughout the threads I lost track.

😐

Originally posted by Black bolt z
About?

Sorry we are just talking about so many things throughout the threads I lost track.

That's the big one.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Manga is the primary canon. Anime is non-canon unless specified to be the version of goku being discussed.

That's the big one.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Well I never read much of the magna.So what I argue is the anime.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Goku has low showings. Sure you wanna keep up the "He's been hurt by less" line of reasoning?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But in surfers average showing he has been hurt by less.As a kid goku took a bullet and expressed the same amount of pain.So unless that rock was going near light speed he shouldn't have felt like that.

So no, he has far more showings of taking the energy than not.
But hey, rocks hurt goku and he struggles to push hills apart.

I nod Mega Man vs. Cyborg.

Originally posted by Creshosk
But it did. And each time he's in space counts toward resisting levels of energy to destroy all life on a planet. our atmosphere is what's keeping the background radiation of space from killing us all.

So no, he has far more showings of taking the energy than not.
But hey, rocks hurt goku and he struggles to push hills apart.

I'll nod skaar vs. Alex mercer just for the heck of it.