Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I hate to say it but it's a PIS in order to make KOF storyline continues. No matter how much you wank about it, the fact still remain that he stopped the time before the time gate even appeared and opened just like stated in Frisky Dingo's post and the video is also the evidence. Any denial and I'll really consider you as the biggest hater I've ever met and it's futile to continue this conversation.
Agree, Saiki has the power to stop the Time, in fact his nikname is "時間を統べるもの" which means the one who can rules the time, with 時間 = jikan "time" and 統べるもの = "suberumono" manipulator
this two video proves what i said :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs5SSrTrqg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOfpEtonlMw&feature=related
And yeah, he doesn't wanna freeze kof participants becuz of he needed their power to travel back in time.
Mukai was beaten up by the tree sacred treasure but managed to be uncathed where Orochi got his ass handed. Magaki seems stronger than Mukai and Saiki one-shoted the latter. I think those from the past are god tier level, i put Mukai above Goenitz and Magaki above Igniz.
Saiki can be above Orochi since he's represented like a Deity...
Originally posted by crimson_2010
Agree, Saiki has the power to stop the Time, in fact his nikname is "時間を統べるもの" which means the one who can rules the time, with 時間 = jikan "time" and 統べるもの = "suberumono" manipulatorthis two video proves what i said :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs5SSrTrqg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOfpEtonlMw&feature=relatedAnd yeah, he doesn't wanna freeze kof participants becuz of he needed their power to travel back in time.
Mukai was beaten up by the tree sacred treasure but managed to be uncathed where Orochi got his ass handed. Magaki seems stronger than Mukai and Saiki one-shoted the latter. I think those from the past are god tier level, i put Mukai above Goenitz and Magaki above Igniz.
Saiki can be above Orochi since he's represented like a Deity...
Thank you for the information. 🙂
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I hate to say it but it's a PIS in order to make KOF storyline continues. No matter how much you wank about it, the fact still remain that he stopped the time before the time gate even appeared and opened just like stated in Frisky Dingo's post and the video is also the evidence. Any denial and I'll really consider you as the biggest hater I've ever met and it's futile to continue this conversation.
Goofball likes to downplay SNK characters a lot.
Putting you on ignore was his own sissy way of not conceding.
As for the match, it's a stalemate, imo.
It's basically Time VS Space... neither will win against the other.
Originally posted by addyXY
i do agree... these latest ash saga bosses in KOF arent that strong... i mean just looking back at the list of previous bosses...1. Rugal
2. Omega rugal(95,98,2002)
3. Goenitz
4. Orochi
5. Krizalid (my personal favourite)
6. Zero & Actual Zero (i think he was rendered cheap due to the strikers he was given)
7. Igniz
1. Igniz (to date, the only SNK boss with a DM that can take out 100% of your health bar if said DM is timed right)
2. Magaki
3. Rugal '94
4. Original Zero (only a sub-boss, but still godly)
5. Orochi
6. Goenitz
7. Clone Zero
8. Mukai
9. Krizalid
I've yet to play the latest KOF game, so Saiki is not included for now.
Actualy, the gate was open win Saiki appeared, it is N the post I made that he sent his men 2 go keep the gate open. Sorry 2 say, but he is right. The gate was also open thruout the fight, it's N the background of the 2nd 2 last satge. It's the big portal. You didn't C the gate but it is stated 2 B open and I bBlieve that No End did say he could stop time if the gate was open. That much is true.
Also, Saiki is called the "Ruler of Time" Bcause he can defy the flow of time, like never aging and moving win the gate is open while every1 else can not and also Bcause of his grand aspirations concerning time. Not Bcause he can control it, the guy is no Ingrid.
"Time Manipulation"- Saiki is able to defy the flow of time at will, thus explaining the sudden appearance of [[Those From the Past.
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Saiki
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Actualy, the gate was open win Saiki appeared, it is N the post I made that he sent his men 2 go keep the gate open. Sorry 2 say, but he is right. The gate was also open thruout the fight, it's N the background of the 2nd 2 last satge. It's the big portal. You didn't C the gate but it is stated 2 B open and I bBlieve that No End did say he could stop time if the gate was open. That much is true.Also, Saiki is called the "Ruler of Time" Bcause he can defy the flow of time, like never aging and moving win the gate is open while every1 else can not and also Bcause of his grand aspirations concerning time. Not Bcause he can control it, the guy is no Ingrid.
"Time Manipulation"- Saiki is able to defy the flow of time at will, thus explaining the sudden appearance of [[Those From the Past.
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Saiki
Look at the video again. The gate in the pre match battle scene is still closed at 0:50. And in after battle scene, the time gate is opened a little. It's because of the battle, the time gate is opened. Saiki used their power to open the time gate. Just like in this statement.
After a massive battle, the KOF participants managed to overcome Saiki. Despite this, Saiki taunts them that the more they struggle against him, the more power they would provide to open the Time Gate. However, things does not go as planned for Saiki when he was informed by Botan that the door of the Time Gate is closing. Shocked by this turn of event, Saiki deduces that more sacrifice is needed. Before he could even proceed further, Saiki is blindsided and has what appears to be his soul absorbed by Ash, whom noticed that his guard is down during the distraction.
He doesn't need to open the time gate if it's already opened. And...
Look at the differences at the time gate between this vid and the previous vid. There's a light which indicates the time gate is already opened. And it's the same gate with the previous video.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I hate to say it but it's a PIS in order to make KOF storyline continues. No matter how much you wank about it, the fact still remain that he stopped the time before the time gate even appeared and opened just like stated in Frisky Dingo's post and the video is also the evidence. Any denial and I'll really consider you as the biggest hater I've ever met and it's futile to continue this conversation.
This commin' from the guy who does everything in his power to downplay Capcom games as hard as he can. And now cuz the facts are presented to you and you have nothing to prove your case, you rely soley upon calling it PIS. That's lame.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
LULZ
👆 No End N Site just got OWNED!Goofball likes to downplay SNK characters a lot.
Putting you on ignore was his own sissy way of not conceding.
STFU you lame ass hatah, you aint said or contributed shit, your first post and all you do is dick ride and cheerlead.
All you do is hate on Capcom. Get a life.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Actualy, the gate was open win Saiki appeared, it is N the post I made that he sent his men 2 go keep the gate open. Sorry 2 say, but he is right. The gate was also open thruout the fight, it's N the background of the 2nd 2 last satge. It's the big portal. You didn't C the gate but it is stated 2 B open and I bBlieve that No End did say he could stop time if the gate was open. That much is true.Also, Saiki is called the "Ruler of Time" Bcause he can defy the flow of time, like never aging and moving win the gate is open while every1 else can not and also Bcause of his grand aspirations concerning time. Not Bcause he can control it, the guy is no Ingrid.
"Time Manipulation"- Saiki is able to defy the flow of time at will, thus explaining the sudden appearance of [[Those From the Past.
http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Saiki
Exactly my point, if people actually take the time to read what you posted, you can clearly read that the gate was already open before he appeared. Time stops before he even appeared
Botan tells Saiki that the gate is closing during the fight, yet you never see the gate at all before the fight, yet she tells Saiki that it's closing. It's common phuckin' sense.
Saiki sends his henchmen to give their power to the gate to KEEP IT OPEN. You have to be a straight up retard to deny these facts. Just cuz you don't see the gate, doesn't mean it aint open, that's some preschool shit AND the game clearly shows you the gate is open in the background of the fight. People are just so much of a fanboy that rather than conced and move on, they'll just settle for playing stupid.
Originally posted by No End N Site
This commin' from the guy who does everything in his power to downplay Capcom games as hard as he can. And now cuz the facts are presented to you and you have nothing to prove your case, you rely soley upon calling it PIS. That's lame.
If I'm lame, then you are very lame. I provide you real and visible facts yet you denied it. 🙄
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Look at the video again. The gate in the pre match battle scene is still closed at 0:50. And in after battle scene, the time gate is opened a little. It's because of the battle, the time gate is opened. Saiki used their power to open the time gate. Just like in this statement.He doesn't need to open the time gate if it's already opened. And...
Look at the differences at the time gate between this vid and the previous vid. There's a light which indicates the time gate is already opened. And it's the same gate with the previous video.
I could C how that would confuse U and the point that the overview continues 2 state "open the Time Gate" rather than saying "Keeping The Time Gate Open". Thats's actually not the real Time Gate shown at 00:50, that's just a background added for dramatic effect 2 reaveal his Ntentions with the gate. He's not trying 2 open the time gate, he's trying 2 keep the Time Gate open. The slither U C after the fight is after it's been closing. Saiki's group were sent 2 keep the gate open, as stated here.
Because only two of the Three Sacred Treasures were collected, Saiki orders his followers to go to the Time Gate and use their powers instead along with the other two treasures to ensure the the Time Gate is open.
If that was the actual Time Gate, The memebers of the TFTP would still be standing there at the gate.
Also, take a look at this, maybe this will also help...
TFTP wanted Orochi's power to open the Time Gate (the gate we saw in the Boss Stage), which requires a lot of energy to do so. The reason they wanted to open the Time Gate is so that Saiki can travel back to the past to rewrite history, as many members of TFTP were wiped out in a war by humans (speculated to be Elizabeth's ancestors).However, when the door of the Time Gate closes before Saiki can even reach the past, it would create a time paradox, thus it would cause Saiki's existence to cease. So in order to ensure that the gate stays open when Saiki is time travelling, the power of the Three Sacred Treasure is needed.
If the gate were 2 close completely, Saiki would die. This proves the gate was open even before Saiki appeared with it and as we C N the end, when the gate does really close, Saiki does really die. As long as Saiki is alive, the gate is open. Now, I'm not 2 sure if Saiki gets what time abilities he has (they appear 2 B very weak) from the gate or not. I'm going to C if I can find No End's post sumwhere 2 check 4 sure.
All the power from the fight and even the sacrafices of his men were not enuff and now the gate is still closes on him
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
I could C how that would confuse U and the point that the overview continues 2 state "open the Time Gate" rather than saying "Keeping The Time Gate Open". Thats's actually not the real Time Gate shown at 00:50, that's just a background added for dramatic effect 2 reaveal his Ntentions with the gate. He's not trying 2 open the time gate, he's trying 2 keep the Time Gate open. The slither U C after the fight is after it's been closing. Saiki's group were sent 2 keep the gate open, as stated here.
What kind of bad reasoning is this? It's just for dramatization? So you wanna say that's a FAKE time gate? Saiki's group are sent to make the gate opened. But in the latest video, you see that no member of TFTP is present except Botan.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
If that was the actual Time Gate, The memebers of the TFTP would still be standing there at the gate.
So, where are they in the second vid?
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
If the gate were 2 close completely, Saiki would die. This proves the gate was open even before Saiki appeared with it and as we C N the end, when the gate does really close, Saiki does really die. As long as Saiki is alive, the gate is open. Now, I'm not 2 sure if Saiki gets what time abilities he has (they appear 2 B very weak) from the gate or not. I'm going to C if I can find No End's post sumwhere 2 check 4 sure.
Your argument contradicts with the bolded statement
TFTP wanted Orochi's power to open the Time Gate (the gate we saw in the Boss Stage), which requires a lot of energy to do so. The reason they wanted to open the Time Gate is so that Saiki can travel back to the past to rewrite history, as many members of TFTP were wiped out in a war by humans (speculated to be Elizabeth's ancestors). However, when the door of the Time Gate closes before Saiki can even reach the past, it would create a time paradox, thus it would cause Saiki's existence to cease. So in order to ensure that the gate stays open when Saiki is time travelling, the power of the Three Sacred Treasure is needed.
The bolded statement implied that Saiki is already in the present timeline before the time gate is opened. Or maybe you wanna say that the time gate is always opened and the time is always stopped because of that?
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
What kind of bad reasoning is this? It's just for dramatization? So you wanna say that's a FAKE time gate? Saiki's group are sent to make the gate opened. But in the latest video, you see that no member of TFTP is present except Botan.
Don't blame me. Blame SNKP. We no the Time Gate has 2 stay open 4 Saiki 2 live, if it closes, he will perish. Like does @ the end. So either it's a background added 4 dramatization or it's slightly cracked.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
So, where are they in the second vid?
Dead already, I presume. They sacraficed themselves 2 keep the gate open.
Your argument contradicts with the bolded statement
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
The bolded statement implied that Saiki is already in the present timeline before the time gate is opened. Or maybe you wanna say that the time gate is always opened and the time is always stopped because of that?
That is on the fault of the translation, rather than saying "keep the the gate open" they just say "open the gate", period. But we no that's not true, Bcause win the gate closes Saiki will die, just like the ending and as stated N the translation. I don't think the Time Gate is powerful enuff 2 stop time across the world, only N the vicinity it appears N win brought 2 this dimension. The gate was always open, but was always sumwhere else. I'm not really sure myself if Saiki uses the Gate 2 stop time or not. My only point was that what little time power he does have is very weak, rather he get's it from the gate or not. It wont B Neffective against any decent fighter, let alone Orochi. Saiki himself has no special moves @ all concerning time. U may equate the apparent weakness 2 PIS but 2 me, it's not that simple and I don't think PIS was present at all. I also wanted 2 illustrate the point that the gate was open, rather this is what stopped time or not is anyone's guess, given Saiki's official profile on the SNKP site has yet 2 B fully translated.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Don't blame me. Blame SNKP. We no the Time Gate has 2 stay open 4 Saiki 2 live, if it closes, he will perish. Like does @ the end. So either it's a background added 4 dramatization or it's slightly cracked.
Now we are talking about the time gate is opened or not... but if you say that it's SNKP mistake...
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Dead already, I presume. They sacraficed themselves 2 keep the gate open.
Well, since no statement about it, I won't say anything about this. But I wonder why Botan is still alive...
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
That is on the fault of the translation, rather than saying "keep the the gate open" they just say "open the gate", period. But we no that's not true, Bcause win the gate closes Saiki will die, just like the ending and as stated N the translation. I don't think the Time Gate is powerful enuff 2 stop time across the world, only N the vicinity it appears N win brought 2 this dimension. The gate was always open, but was always sumwhere else.
First, I hope you're not making things up in your own favor by blaming the translation. And, since there's no evidence about how far the time gate stopped the time, I won't made an assumption.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
I'm not really sure myself if Saiki uses the Gate 2 stop time or not. My only point was that what little time power he does have is very weak, rather he get's it from the gate or not. It wont B Neffective against any decent fighter, let alone Orochi. Saiki himself has no special moves @ all concerning time. U may equate the apparent weakness 2 PIS but 2 me, it's not that simple and I don't think PIS was present at all. I also wanted 2 illustrate the point that the gate was open, rather this is what stopped time or not is anyone's guess, given Saiki's official profile on the SNKP site has yet 2 B fully translated. [/B]
Saiki is stronger than Magaki and Mukai. Mukai and Magaki remain unscathed after fought a very strong fighter such as Kyo and Iori who made a giant pillar of flame that reaches the sky. And the statement stated that he fought tournament participant. Not only the champion. Which means Kyo and most likely Elizabeth are included. Kyo knows what is Ash's motives in his ending. And, the fact still remain that Saiki stops time when he appeared together with other TFTP. As for the result of this match, I give this to Saiki.
Originally posted by No End N Site
^Beautiful. *claps*It's fuuny how they call me a hater but have read none of my posts concerning SNK outside the Game VS forum. And they never have anything good to say at all. It's just very silly.
You said you'll ignore me but when someone made a good argument against me, you came and become a cheerleader. Very smart... 🙄
Originally posted by Kirikaze FuumaYou said you'll ignore me but when someone made a good argument against me, you came and become a cheerleader. Very smart... 🙄
😂 That's a very stupid thing to say cuz he and I have been arguin' with you and he is saying almost the same thing I'm saying. It's not like my 1st post in this thread was a "OOOOO you got pwned" comment. I'm not like that and nobody I respect on this forum is like that. When we disagree, we bring it. We don't just cheerlead like you and your pals.
Originally posted by No End N Site
😂 That's a very stupid thing to say cuz he and I have been arguin' with you and he is saying almost the same thing I'm saying. It's not like my 1st post in this thread was a "OOOOO you got pwned" comment. I'm not like that and nobody I respect on this forum is like that. When we disagree, we bring it. We don't just cheerlead like you and your pals.
😂
I cheerlead someone? please... when were the last time I said that I'll ignore you and when someone put a good argument against you, I clapped my hand and made another post which indicates that I haven't ignored you yet? When were the last time I said "Bwahaha! You got owned, fanboy"? Never. Your act is different with your words.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
😂I cheerlead someone? please... when were the last time I said that I'll ignore you and when someone put a good argument against you, I clapped my hand and made another post which indicates that I haven't ignored you yet? When were the last time I said "Bwahaha! You got owned, fanboy"? Never. Your act is different with your words.
Also, the last time one of those socks came here, all you did was cheerlead and I can show you.
Originally posted by No End N Site
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I said I would start ignoring you and have still replied to your comments anyway long before I commended Frisky for what he did. Look back and you'll see. And the only reason why I have not ignored you is cuz the responses I have replied to have been about "No End N Site" and not Saiki VS Orochi. Quit playing stupid, you know what you did.Also, the last time one of those socks came here, all you did was cheerlead and I can show you.
You ignored me because you think I attacked you out of the context? Dude, I'm just saying that you are wrong and need to do some research before you accused me to be wrong.
So you're saying that I was once clapped my hands when I saw someone put a good argument against you? You're saying that I was once said "Bwahaha! You got owned, fanboy"? I don't remember doing both of these stuff but OK, try to show me when. That's if you can find them.