JLA vs Avengers rematch

I know that the rules for a normal forum match classify JLA/Avengers as non-cannon, but for the purposes of this thread we're going to assume that it IS cannon evidence for all parties. No one gets "basic knowledge" on the opposing team beyond what they ended JLA/Avengers with. Since I don't think these versions of Wonder Man and Aquaman were seen in the crossover, just assume that Grandmaster somehow gave them any memories their future versions aquired in the crossover.

Superman(current)
Green Lantern(Hal)
Flash(Wally)
Wonder Woman
Aquaman(Magic Water Hand)
Martian Manhunter
Firestorm

vs

Thor(classic)
Quasar
Monica Rambeau
Mantis(Celestial Madonna)
Mar-Vell
Pre Ionic Form Wonder Man(when he learned to grow, regenerate limbs, etc.)
Sersi

Everyone begins the match "Battle Ready" and fights in character(assume that only the winning team will be returned to their universe to help determine what will constitute "is character"😉. The battlefield is in a neutral universe(Speed Force works though) and looks identical to the one they fought on at the end of issue 2. Also note that this is a team battle, not 7 independant fights between logical counterparts.

Who takes it?

Aquaman would remember anyway. It was the same person. 😛

Or he was an alternate universe one?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Aquaman would remember anyway. It was the same person. 😛

Or he was an alternate universe one?

Team DC.Marvel has a few weak links.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Team DC.Marvel has a few weak links.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Was it? Damn I thought it was a version w/o the water hand.

It was. but its the same guy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Which characters do you consider "weak links"?

Then I don't even know who monica is?

Originally posted by -Pr-
It was. but its the same guy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If any sersi.

Then I don't even know who monica is?

Sersi isn't a weak link.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Sersi isn't a weak link.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If any sersi.

Then I don't even know who monica is?

She's the black chick who turns into energy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
You think the chick that ko'd Hercules with a punch and is a top tier telepath and transmuter is a weak link 😕 ?

She's the black chick who turns into energy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought he lost the water hand before the crossover though?

It was after the crossover iirc.

canon aquaman had lost the hook and gained the water hand.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Slightly moreso compared to team DC.Only slightly but that can make the difference.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It was after the crossover iirc.

canon aquaman had lost the hook and gained the water hand.

JLA

Originally posted by kgkg
JLA

Originally posted by darthgoober
Any reason in particular, or do you just see the JLA as being overall more powerful?

Also they don't seem to have a real counter for Wally who will take out someone like Sersi and other less agile members off rather quickly.

Other than energy output JLA seem to be better at almost everything else.

I would say Sersi's more powerful/useful than Wonder Man, Mar-vell, or Mantis.

Originally posted by kgkg
More powerful and JLA will have better teamwork here.

Also they don't seem to have a real counter for Wally who will take out someone like Sersi and other less agile members off rather quickly.

Other than energy output JLA seem to be better at almost everything else.

I could see Mantis or Monica pulling their share of wins against Wally. I mean Mantis was dealing with charges from Quicksilver before her upgrade and Runner after her upgrade(and I know the Quicksilver thing doesn't mean much at this level, I was just demonstrating that the thing with the Runner wasn't necessarily a fluke), so I could definately see her putting Wally on his ass long enough to finish him off on a good day. And since Monica would start the fight flying in energy form(likely GL energy since she learned to use it in the crossover) I can picture her giving him fits too. Also remember that the combatants are Battle Ready, so the fliers will most likely start the fight in air.