Joker vs. Kingpin

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]By melting his head into a puddle?

This is the Joker were talking about. [/B]

lol poor Dent. Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
this is fisk we're talking about. hes taken multiple gunshots to the chest with no problem

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Its a pretty old story. It is an arc that follows after the (first)death of Jason Todd the first Robin,and introduces Tim Drake.
Basically the Joker is recuperating from his being shot,and blown up in a helicopter,and to keep himself amused he manipulates Two-Face into hiring villians and commiting crimes to drive Batman nuts.
He plays on TF's insanity and all he uses is a mic in a radio. He makes TF think its one of his inner voices. [/B]

Thats kinda plausible considering TF is already nuts.

Jokes is no good at running his criminal empire but that also makes him a better character arguably than Kingpin because he doesn't need to hide behind an empire.

Joker is dangerous without one or you could argue a weaker character than Kingpin because he can't run a criminal empire to his advantage. Depends what side of the fence you want to take but in this case i would back Kingpin.

Although you have got to admire how many times Joker loses all his stuff when he gets sent to arkham only to come back and put himself back on top in relatively short amounts of time through pure willpower and ruthless killings.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats kinda plausible considering TF is already nuts.

TF has some very particular ways he operates, play by those rules and hes butter in your hands.

1 kp

2 No and he'd get killed

Originally posted by 753
1 kp

2 No and he'd get killed

This.

In the second scenario, he would die quickly. Metas in Gotham are less common that in New-York, in Marvel. Just imagine how ugly it would turn out when Iron Man or Thor decide to stop his shit?

Or what about Punisher, blowing his face with a sniper rifle shot? Or Ghost Rider? Anyway, you get the point.

true. in NY the name of the game is keeping a low profile so that you only have to deal with those you can.

Originally posted by SamZED
That's true, but he's no idiot, far from it actually. Manipulating him like that is something.

As for this thread, someone kills Joker.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
1: Fight

2: If joker were the crime lord of marvel new york would he do a better job then the kingpin?

1. Kingpin chokes the life out of him, he did defeat the Red Skull in pitched combat after all.

2. Don't know?

1. Kingpin shoots him with a cane laser before Joker can get close enough to spray him with acid.

2. Joker in NY? He lasts roughly a couple of dozen murders before someone takes him out. Prolly Punisher snipes him.