Originally posted by Allankles
Eternity isn't equal to the Source. He's/it's significantly below the Source. The Source is equivalent to the mind of the TOAA or the active aspect of the TOAA.
The Source is the "source" from which the universe/multiverse was birthed in DC lore. In Marvel, Eternity represents the universe/multiverse. Seems about the same level to me.
Originally posted by Cubey
The Source is the "source" from which the universe/multiverse was birthed in DC lore. In Marvel, Eternity represents the universe/multiverse. Seems about the same level to me.
Not really. The Source would be like the mind of the TOAA, the ultimate medium from which all existence is formed. The Source is the ultimate concept where all ideas, all concepts come from, it is The Overvoid, The Presence, God.
No idea or concept is seperate from the Source - energy, powers, reality itself are nothing without it in DC.
Eternity isn't the fountain of all things in Marvel, case in point Alien Entity (infinity gems), LT (a being above Eternity) et al
I generally don't acknowledge SF DS because the amount of power he had should have made him omnipotent and unbeatable no matter the circumstances. It would be about as futile to take on the One Above All in Marvel and yet he still lost. I'd have to say that the entire story arc of stealing the souls of the gods was major PIS as well as stealing it from the source/.
Originally posted by Allankles
Not really. The Source would be like the mind of the TOAA, the ultimate medium from which all existence is formed. The Source is the ultimate concept where all ideas, all concepts come from, The Overvoid, The Presence, God.No idea or concept is seperate from the Source - energy, powers, reality itself are nothing without it in DC.
Eternity isn't the fountain of all things in Marvel, case in point Alien Entity, LT (a being above Eternity) et al
Um what? The Source is not ≥ The Presence or the Overvoid if that's what you're implying.
Eternity isn't the fountain of all things in Marvel, but Source isn't the fountain of everything in DC either. Technically the Overvoid is and the Presence is the creator of the multiverse. And Michael/Lucifer created their own multiverse that was born after casually breaching the Source Wall.
Originally posted by Cubey
Um what? The Source is not ≥ The Presence or the Overvoid if that's what you're implying.Eternity isn't the fountain of all things in Marvel, but Source isn't the fountain of everything in DC either. Technically the Overvoid is and the Presence is the creator of the multiverse. And Michael/Lucifer created their own multiverse that was born after casually breaching the Source Wall.
The Source has always been reckoned as an aspect of God/The Presence in DC. In the current and more clear cosmology the Primal Monitor is supreme as he or his mind is the metaphorical blank canvas on which all the infinite ideas and potential ideas of the DC are housed.
The Monitors themselves are like his angels and are also finite sapient unique parts of him. The Overvoid which is the infinite unknowable mind of the Primal Monitor is also called the Source/God as per FC.
Marvel's cosmology and Eternities place in that cosmology are not anlagous to DC's cosmology or the Source's position in it. The Source is also called the ultimate concept, the fountain from which all ideas and concepts come from, the medium of all existence within the DCU as it is the Overvoid, the active mind of the Primal Monitor.
The Source is not the Overvoid. We saw the *true* Source (that would be Source+ALE) in DotNG, as well as DC One Million, and he's far different from the Primal Monitor/Overvoid.
Hell, both Michael and Lucifer are above the Source, shown when they casually breached the Wall and created their own multiverse.
The Source might not be a direct analogue to Multi-Eternity but gets pretty close.