Soulfire darkseid vs. Thanos with IG

Nothing is a threat to Bat God.

Originally posted by Cubey
The Source is not the Overvoid. We saw the *true* Source (that would be Source+ALE) in DotNG, as well as DC One Million, and he's far different from the Primal Monitor/Overvoid.

Hell, both Michael and Lucifer are above the Source, shown when they casually breached the Wall and created their own multiverse.

The Source might not be a direct analogue to Multi-Eternity but gets pretty close.

This is current cosmology post FC. The Source/God/Overvoid are one and the same, it is the mind of the Primal Monitor which houses all existence i.e. the multiverse (orrery of worlds), monitor world, heaven (all of them, 4th world, judeo chrisitian heaven) and the infinite unknown that surrounds it all.

There is such a thing as retconing. Besides it has brought welcome clarity to the cosmology, don't you think? It doesn't take away from the Judeo Chrisitian angels (who now appear to be no greater than the Monitors who are also, & precisely angels of the Primal Monitor).

You should check out the FC spinoff on Libra for info on the Source. Also check out Morrison's interviews on FC all the info is there.

Will do.

Still though, I think Thanos showed greater feats so I still think he wins (because you have to remember the Source that Darkseid fought was pre-FC).

But you did raise my opinion of Darkseid/Source 👆

Double post.

I'd see the source as being above eternity.Not LT level or IG level though.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Darksied based on the Source feat.

Originally posted by Allankles
Eternity isn't equal to the Source. He's/it's significantly below the Source. The Source is equivalent to the mind of the TOAA or the active aspect of the TOAA.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What was so impressive about it ? Seriously? False.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
He made the source his *****?

Originally posted by Allankles
This is current cosmology post FC. The Source/God/Overvoid are one and the same, it is the mind of the Primal Monitor which houses all existence i.e. the multiverse (orrery of worlds), monitor world, heaven (all of them, 4th world, judeo chrisitian heaven) and the infinite unknown that surrounds it all.

There is such a thing as retconing. Besides it has brought welcome clarity to the cosmology, don't you think? It doesn't take away from the Judeo Chrisitian angels (who now appear to be no greater than the Monitors who are also, & precisely angels of the Primal Monitor).

You should check out the FC spinoff on Libra for info on the Source. Also check out Morrison's interviews on FC all the info is there.

👆

Also Cubey, Lucifer or Michael never breached the Source Wall, he merely went to the wall and stood on a Promethean Giants shoulder who was stuck on it and looked back and Lucifer could see everything in creation.

bump

Originally posted by Cubey
The Source is the "source" from which the universe/multiverse was birthed in DC lore. In Marvel, Eternity represents the universe/multiverse. Seems about the same level to me.

Eternity is the aspect of the chronal axis and represents all that is along it. He is not the equivalent of the Source.

The Source was said to be DC's Big Bang, the Source of all life, energy and matter within DC. That is not what Eternity is in Marvel.

A more fitting equivalent would be Marvels sentient Big Bang, the Phoenix Force, which is the sum and substance of all that lives, the power source behind the stars by canon.

In support of this, in the DC/Marvel Titans/Uncanny X-men crossover, Dark Phoenix, the dark manifestation of the Phoenix Force was reconstituted from memories the X-men had of Jean Grey and a portion of the Source.

Originally posted by amnesia
^ How would that be a threat to batman?

Love it.

Originally posted by Allankles
Eternity isn't equal to the Source. He's/it's significantly below the Source. The Source is equivalent to the mind of the TOAA or the active aspect of the TOAA.

Sometimes I honestly wonder about you Allan... The source is = to the TOAA mind or active aspect.. WTF are you basing this one. That is just ludicris.. The source battle feats are honestly a joke just like Eternity. They are pretty much exactly the same in power level and importance.

Personally I have trouble calling Starlin's Source and Kirby's Source the same entity.

i think soulfire darkseid wins 😉

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Personally I have trouble calling Starlin's Source and Kirby's Source the same entity.

Eternity could give the source a good fight on his own. But he would lose. The IG is just like another Eternity right? When Thanos had the IG, he simply replaced Eternity. So, like the IG is a better Eternity right? The Source is like a better Eternity. I"d say the Source and the IG are pretty even. But Soulfire DS was more powerful than the Source. So Soulfire DS would be greater than the Source and Eternity.

Originally posted by Oak Parker
Eternity could give the source a good fight on his own. But he would lose. The IG is just like another Eternity right? When Thanos had the IG, he simply replaced Eternity. So, like the IG is a better Eternity right? The Source is like a better Eternity. I"d say the Source and the IG are pretty even. But Soulfire DS was more powerful than the Source. So Soulfire DS would be greater than the Source and Eternity.

Originally posted by MrMind
i think soulfire darkseid wins 😉

Originally posted by Allankles
No idea or concept is seperate from the Source - energy, powers, reality itself are nothing without it in DC.