Most overplayed weakness?

Started by Q998 pages

Part of the threat of the radion bullet was it stayed in the target, I got the impression.

Darkseid did not go down fast after being shot by it, the Flashes had to lure the Black Racer in.

Originally posted by Q99
Part of the threat of the radion bullet was it stayed in the target, I got the impression.

Darkseid did not go down fast after being shot by it, the Flashes had to lure the Black Racer in.


Darkseid died a Rasputian death in Final Crisis. Radion bullet followed by his own OE striking him, followed by the Black Racer coming for him, followed (apparently, the timeline is a little wonky) Wonder Woman binding him with her lasso, and then after all that getting his counter-vibration sung by Superman. And this was all after he had already been killed by Orion.

The guy was stubborn.

Spiderman and MA
Rhino and any foe-I half expext to see him lose against Aunt May, with a rolled up newspaper.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Radion is actually more dangerous to the New Gods than Kryptonite is to Kryptonians. That one is justified. IIRC the most that any New God ever stood up to was two shots from a Radion Blaster and that was Darkseid, pretty much any other New God would have died.

Fortunately Radion seems incredibly rare.

That is my point... it's so rare and not really a factor in any vs. match.. yet it gets brought up is my point. Stay with me Omega...

Hulk and Herc grounded

Thats not a over played weakness when all a good flyer has to do is move a little to the right, then wooosh Hulk goes straight past.

People exaggerate Wonder Woman's magical vulnerability to bullets like crazy.

Originally posted by Konton
People exaggerate Wonder Woman's magical vulnerability to bullets like crazy.

to be honest she was originally intended to be vulnerable to bullets and piercing attacks if not mistaken, though this was changed.

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
to be honest she was originally intended to be vulnerable to bullets and piercing attacks if not mistaken, though this was changed.
not so much changed as it was literally forgotten, ignored to make her more then she really was.. there are still scans of her in the 90's being told of her weakness on how her durability works.. it has to be activated via strength and superspeed if none are present she can be stabbed and injured like any other mortal.. she was stabbed in the leg to prove the point by one of her sisters.

her higher durability appeared out of nowhere with no explanation to it which is why i hate DC so much.

Hungry Galactus (as if starving Galactus didnt totally wipe out three solar systems in a blast)

Magic > Supes.

Jobber Darkseid.

They just wanted to pump Diana to Superman's level, DC doesn't think there is anything good on the meta tier, who can probably like Iron-man?

C'mon, WW's been able to trade blows with Superman since forever, decades before the Crisis even, being that vulnerable to bullets and blades is silly. Also, her sisters use enchanted blades. She's been *more* vulnerable to piercing and cutting attacks, but even in the 90s it took more than mundane ones to cause her serious injury, and even stab wounds and cuts by superhuman foes didn't exactly take her down (in the Perez era, she was more easily cut, but she also healed them very fast).

Thor started out vulnerable to bullets too, oddly enough. Thankfully also forgotten.

funny because back in the 70's thor was fighting in korea and he took machine gun fire and rocket launchers just fine when he was defending the red cross.

anyways diana taking blunt trauma against supes is fine and it was explained just fine since her muscles and bones are protected by magic when she activates her strength to engage in such a fight.

and during her lesson she wasnt stabbed by a magic arrow but a normal one by her sister to prove the point.. nice try.

Originally posted by King Castle
funny because back in the 70's thor was fighting in korea and he took machine gun fire and rocket launchers just fine when he was defending the red cross.

And there have been times when bullets could make him bleed. It was probably already gone by the 70s.

anyways diana taking blunt trauma against supes is fine and it was explained just fine since her muscles and bones are protected by magic when she activates her strength to engage in such a fight.

Such a means would protect against stabbing and blades, though.

and during her lesson she wasnt stabbed by a magic arrow but a normal one by her sister to prove the point.. nice try.

A Themyscrian arrow, though? Those things aren't normal. Nor are her sisters normal human in strength.

Bruce Wayne.

Agreed with Supermans magic weakness.

And every writer has their own take on it.. Some portray this "weakness" is nothing more then the lack of special resistances, the same as any other mortal, and others believe he's especially weak against magic (For example, the pre crisis Phantom Zone saga had Superman be cut by a magic sword, and a Kryptonian wizard claimed this is because physical strengths are useless against magic, while All Star Squadron had Hitler with the Spear of Destiny only able to enslave magic based characters like Alan Scott and Wonder Woman.... and Superman.

All other non magic based characters were unaffected.)

It's overplayed, and it's kind of annoying having so many different interpretations, because fans tend to clash over them...

Originally posted by Q99
And there have been times when bullets could make him bleed. It was probably already gone by the 70s.

Such a means would protect against stabbing and blades, though.

just b/c they live Themyscrian doesnt mean every metal is magical most of the magical items tend to be given to them by gods and goddesses.. they have regular knifes and equipment that isnt magical as well usually when it is they say it out right this piece of armor or sword shield is magic.

the arrows used for the amazon competition wasnt magical neither was the one used to train diana and show her, her weakness. the arrows were being shot at her and were breaking on not just her wrist guards but on rocks/

you are trying to hard to defend diana when it appears you havent read the 90's issue in question other wise you wouldnt be trying to dismiss it as it must have bn magic and the amazon have super strength.. the amazon may be peak and slightly superhuman but nothing more on average and it wasnt like diana's sister stabbed her with full strength behind it it was a simple stab no real effort and it went right into her leg... diana's mother freaked out but it was a lesson needed for diana who felt she didnt need any training or had nothing to fear.

A Themyscrian arrow, though? Those things aren't normal. Nor are her sisters normal human in strength.

It's still a silly weakness 🙂

agreed. but, it should have bn properly acknowledged and retcon not just written out in a following story as it never being there.

that makes for poor lazy story telling and puts off fans.

Originally posted by Q99
C'mon, WW's been able to trade blows with Superman since forever, decades before the Crisis even, being that vulnerable to bullets and blades is silly. Also, her sisters use enchanted blades. She's been *more* vulnerable to piercing and cutting attacks, but even in the 90s it took more than mundane ones to cause her serious injury, and even stab wounds and cuts by superhuman foes didn't exactly take her down (in the Perez era, she was more easily cut, but she also healed them very fast).

Thor started out vulnerable to bullets too, oddly enough. Thankfully also forgotten.

Agreed on it being silly.

I think it was Busiek who commented on it on CBR, and basically shrugged his shoulders and said "She's magic. Magics funny that way."

That's probably how most writers rationalize it.