Originally posted by cdtmeasiest thing they could have done is have a god or goddess win favor and address the weakness and remove it or when she was a goddess acknowledge that it was removed due to her retaining a lil extra umpf when she returned to her previous power lvls..
Agreed on it being silly.I think it was Busiek who commented on it on CBR, and basically shrugged his shoulders and said "She's magic. Magics funny that way."
That's probably how most writers rationalize it.
this whole i have a new limit i just discovered due to exceeding it in battle is lazy writing which is why guys like superman, sentry and diana suck balls... same for a GL
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
though the confidences thing has been displayed in comics numerous times. Cannon ball used it effectively to hold gladiator off, Nova used it to defeat him ect.It also been used as a strength to increases his abilites as well.
It's rare, and Cannonball hit him back with his own kinetic energy. Gladiator got up a few panels later in a bad mood. It's not something that he can consciously amp. Gladiator performs best when he's not thinking about it.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
There quite a bit of evidences, that supports this. Spiderman has trouble with skilled opponents. True it over play often on the boards, but the basis is still very much true.
But that "weakness" is really only to an extent. For the most part, Spidey holds back so much against "human" opponents. I admit that this tends to work poorly in his favor, but it's what he does. Otherwise, he'd be exploding heads left and right with this fists.
The times when he's not messing around, well, you can see exactly how little the martial arts skills matter at that point. I'm always reminded of when Spidey just had enough and lifted up on the train cars over his head, with seemingly little effort, and made his ninja(?) enemy piss his pants in terror.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThere is not, he's done very well with opponents who are skilled and have powers (Puma for example). Any trouble he has against main A star characters is a case of him simply jobbing for the story and holding back (either for weakness of the character and/or the sake of the fight).. On the forum most MA's aren't getting even a split with him, he is faster and can wipe out most of them in a hit, if not incapacitate him. Spider-Man is skilled, and he is also experienced as well, much faster and with enhanced senses. He has his own unorthodox style as well.
There quite a bit of evidences, that supports this. Spiderman has trouble with skilled opponents. True it over play often on the boards, but the basis is still very much true.
Martial Arts does not determine fighting ability, fighting ability is not just martial arts. Characters like Thor don't know martial arts, but to say he isn't skilled is just silly.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Hearing trite arguments concerning Spider-Man's perceived lack of any kind of fighting skill can get tiresome. And I'm not even a Spider-Man fan.
Proves my point nicely. I even made a thread about this.
I'd say that Thor's been around long enough to learn martial arts but it's just not his thing. It's like a friend I've had since I was young. Learned a bunch of martial arts Tae Kwan Do, ju Jitsu, Jeet Kun Do but when it came down to the few fights he's been in he just out right brawls.(even when sober)
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
There is not, he's done very well with opponents who are skilled and have powers (Puma for example). Any trouble he has against main A star characters is a case of him simply jobbing for the story and holding back (either for weakness of the character and/or the sake of the fight).. On the forum most MA's aren't getting even a split with him, he is faster and can wipe out most of them in a hit, if not incapacitate him. Spider-Man is skilled, and he is also experienced as well, much faster and with enhanced senses. He has his own unorthodox style as well.Martial Arts does not determine fighting ability, fighting ability is not just martial arts. Characters like Thor don't know martial arts, but to say he isn't skilled is just silly.
Proves my point nicely. I even made a thread about this.
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