Superman Vs Captain Marvel

Originally posted by h1a8
The power of Zues is the lightning, nothing more. Prove what you are talking about.

Lastly, CM has the strength of Hercules (by writer's intent).

WW is stated in D.C. comics to be stronger than Hercules. Superman is stronger than her and thus stronger than CM. Superman has greater feats as well.

I remember an old Superman story where he said something like "compared to me Hercules is the original 98 pound weakling!".

CM was always stated to receive the strength of Hercules, speed of Mercury etc. But a couple of times in CM appearances in the 70s and 80s he pointed out that he got the strength of Atlas or Zeus as well, wisdom of Zeus as well and so on, and that he did in fact 'stack' his powers to some degree and so was stronger than Herc, had greater stamina than Atlas etc. Is this just forgotten now or was this ever actually stated on panel to be retconned?

Originally posted by Philosophía
You mean the issue of Captain Marvel's own series where a full powered Captain Marvel, using both Hercules and Atlas's strength (which he doesn't usually do - Atlas is for stamina) just stalemating a pre - No Limits/Our Worlds at War arc when Superman had no ideea how to acces his true power? What a great showing for Captain Marvel, you're right, in the end - being equal to even a subconsciously holding back Superman while giving everything he normally has (Hercules) and more (Atlas), is just about how it should be.

DC aren't bias against the Marvel family, quite the contrary, the fact that he is still being portrayed as equal to Superman should be considered an honor considering the advancement in power, formidability etc. the latter has received. And quite frankly, inside the actual continuity, it's quite illogical - but editorial mandates are editorial mandates (Captain Marvel being a Superman rival). Or, perhaps, Superman is just being nice.

Non-canon. And it's from Alex Ross, the biggest Captain Marvel fanboy. If you want to get something within continuity - Black Adam is clearly slower than Jay Garrick - the same Flash who Superman matched (and arguably outsped by a hair) in a direct race. I'm sure you'd argue Captain Marvel is significantly faster than Black Adam, am I right?

How about I use your own scans?

"In the blink of even your eye I can be in the center of Metropolis."

Notice how Captain Marvel so directly contradicts him? Exactly.

The same Captain Marvel who got knocked the **** out back into Billy/unconsciousness by the book's feedback, while Superman shrugged it off? The same book that Ultraman - Superman's equal lifted by himself? The same Captain Marvel that has no relevance to the mainstream Superman/Captain Marvel?

The answer to all of those is yes.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^LOL at this S***

I don't even know who he is, baring the 'boring troll' that pops into my head when I read his username.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I don't even know who he is, baring the 'boring troll' that pops into my head when I read his username.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He doesn't afraid of anything.

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Originally posted by Omega Vision
That alone should make you shy away from starting shit with him. crackers

he troll too though

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
^LOL at this S***

truth hurts.

CM matches superman's handshake strength with just a fraction of his power.. making superman strain and acknowledge his grip even though freedie and sister are drawing power from him.
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007txfc

Originally posted by King Castle
CM matches superman's handshake strength with just a fraction of his power.. making superman strain and acknowledge his grip even though freedie and sister are drawing power from him.
http://pics.livejournal.com/jeanne_dark/pic/0007txfc

the image doesn't match your statement.

it does too. 😒

SM is making the nngh grunting sound while billy only has a fraction of his original powers 😛

Superman is waaaaay faster than CM. He has superior reflexes and combat abilities. He also has better ranged attacks and better control over his ranged attacks. He wins more often than not.

this isnt a vs thread and Cm is on par to all the attributes you just listed and claimed he wasnt minus range. 😬

read the OP 📖

Originally posted by King Castle
it does too. 😒

SM is making the nngh grunting sound while billy only has a fraction of his original powers 😛

Superman was probably being nice to Cap by not crushing his fingers into powder.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Billy makes it too. There's also the fact that Superman has made that sound when being punched by a Parademon who we all know are nowhere near strong enough to hurt him.

Superman was probably being nice to Cap by not crushing his fingers into powder.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the image doesn't match your statement.

it does... 😉

Billy is obviously at a 1/3 of his regular level

Originally posted by King Castle
it does too. 😒

SM is making the nngh grunting sound while billy only has a fraction of his original powers 😛

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what comic is this?

need to get the 'SM in awe of CM' scans for CM respect thread

Originally posted by ankur29
it does... 😉

Billy is obviously at a 1/3 of his regular level

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what comic is this?

need to get the 'SM in awe of CM' scans for CM respect thread

one third? why?

Originally posted by -Pr-
one third? why?

it splits evenly and both mary & cm jr were powered up

Originally posted by ankur29
it splits evenly and both mary & cm jr were powered up

if it split evenly then both freddy and mary would be as powerful as billy, wouldn't they?

Originally posted by -Pr-
if it split evenly then both freddy and mary would be as powerful as billy, wouldn't they?

yup

at least i think it splits evenly , lemme check 4 a scan

Originally posted by ankur29
yup

at least i think it splits evenly , lemme check 4 a scan

iirc that only came about in the power of shazam series.

before then it had been incredibly inconsistent, and i honestly can't remember them ever saying freddy and mary were billy's equals. if they were, they'd be superman's equals too, and i honestly never saw any proof of that.

Originally posted by ankur29

at least i think it splits evenly , lemme check 4 a scan