Superman Vs Captain Marvel

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Why does Billy have a probability of dying when changing to his form?
Has anyone ever died when possessing this power?

Why does the chance of dying go up just because the government knows who you are?
Scratch that, why would the government know, and if they tried to kill me once, they'd be toast. I suspect they wouldn't outright kill a magical being far above them if he did no wrong, as well, if you want to play the retard game.

No! I'm referring to when he changes to Billy the mortal form.

Originally posted by h1a8
No! I'm referring to when he changes to Billy the mortal form.

Why does Billy have a probability of dying when changing to his form?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
If he didn't spend this much time on these forums, I'd swear he was trolling you all.

sneer

Thats why I just LOL at him and his bullshit.

Comic world = Superman. Immense versatility, vast powers and the ability to amp. What's not to like?

Real world = Captain Marvel. Being able to not squish your gf like a bug accidentally IRL when you're being intimate is a big deal. And with no other superhumans around, you'll rule the world. Though you DO have quite a vulnerability here when you're being intimate with someone.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
ive read a bio where they described captain marvel as an amalgam of superman and classic strange, they said he has dr strange level magic but never uses them

Let's remember Captain Marvel predates Doctor Strange by more than twenty years. He's not an amalgam of anyone (no matter that lawyers for Superman argued the opposite through the 1940's.)

In both cases for me, it's Captain Marvel. It's like Superman himself puts it in KINGDOM COME - Billy is the one who knows how it feels to walk in two worlds. So I could change into a herald level being when I wanted, and go back to being normal when I wanted. And immortality isn't out of the question for me, either. And I would trade some of Superman's powers - heat & x-ray & microscopic vision, super breath - for that experience, plus the Wisdom Of Solomon and the ability to be a vessel for even greater power, like being empowered so much by the Shadowpact to go one on one with the Spectre.
Superman gets more pressure inside the comics world to be the posterboy for all heroes. Captain Marvel doesn't have to deal with that.

And what is this trolling B.S. that CM is vulnerable to dying if he changes too often?...Or to heat? 🤨

Here in Power Of Hope, he punches holes inside a volcano to safely release lava.

Originally posted by roughrider
Let's remember Captain Marvel predates Doctor Strange by more than twenty years. He's not an amalgam of anyone (no matter that lawyers for Superman argued the opposite through the 1940's.)

In both cases for me, it's Captain Marvel. It's like Superman himself puts it in KINGDOM COME - Billy is the one who knows how it feels to walk in two worlds. So I could change into a herald level being when I wanted, and go back to being normal when I wanted. And immortality isn't out of the question for me, either. And I would trade some of Superman's powers - heat & x-ray & microscopic vision, super breath - for that experience, plus the Wisdom Of Solomon and the ability to be a vessel for even greater power, like being empowered so much by the Shadowpact to go one on one with the Spectre.
Superman gets more pressure inside the comics world to be the posterboy for all heroes. Captain Marvel doesn't have to deal with that.

And what is this trolling B.S. that CM is vulnerable to dying if he changes too often?...Or to heat? 🤨

Here in Power Of Hope, he punches holes inside a volcano to safely release lava.

Physically, Billy really should be at least on Supermans level all around, if not superior thanks to his power sources.

One interesting thing about Marvel in the post crisis era, is almost every writer has him equal or superior to superman face to face, yet they tend to downplay his effectiveness in other situations.. For example, all was lost in Final Crisis until Superman showed up. And in Genesis, energy Superman was thinking how he could have soloed the entire group of New Gods they were facing (And he HAS soloed most of Apokolips in the past), yet Captain Marvel is right there and not really being of much use..

He was also pretty useless in Giffen's JLA, being unable to accomplish basic goals like reign in Guy Gardner, getting knocked out by a Royal Flush Gang robot that Blue Beetle and Booster Gold managed to defeat, and being possessed and forced to fight Martian Manhunter, and being knocked out by him to boot..

War of the Gods? Basically a pawn.

Kingdom Come? He punked Superman a little, and saved the heroes, but he was basically a pawn.

I guess what I'm saying, is most writers seem interested in is using Cap as competition for Superman, but don't give him enough proper portrayals on his own merits.. He's rarely the "big hero" he should be.

Originally posted by cdtm

I guess what I'm saying, is most writers seem interested in is using Cap as competition for Superman, but don't give him enough proper portrayals on his own merits.. He's rarely the "big hero" he should be.

qft

CM has so much potential
DC have really messed up with him

Originally posted by h1a8
If there is a x% chance of you dying while in mortal form. Then you would most likely die the Ceiling[100/x] time you change. X becomes pretty high when the government knows this.

With that said,

1. CM is more vulnerable to heat and mind attacks than Superman is . A very hot and powerful energy blast or mind rape can fell you.

2. As CM you will die in about Ceiling[100/x] changings to mortal form.

Originally posted by ankur29
qft

CM has so much potential
DC have really messed up with him

Because even though he's superior in power overall to Superman,
Superman is the poster boy.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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Why does Billy have a probability of dying when changing to his form?

There's always a chance of getting hit by a stray bullet or car, being blown up, etc. This is common sense no?

Originally posted by mykke
I'm pretty sure you need an IQ of less than 60 to understand this post. Stop using formulas that have no bearings on any comic discussion.

Good God, does the BS ever stop? Oh wait, ignore.....heh thats works.

Originally posted by roughrider
Because even though he's superior in power overall to Superman,
Superman is the poster boy.

Superman is superior to CM in everyway except magical resistance, weakness to kryptonite and red solar radiation, potential immortality.

Superman is stronger, faster, more durable, and has more powers.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman is superior to CM in everyway except magical resistance, weakness to kryptonite and red solar radiation, potential immortality.

Superman is stronger, faster, more durable, and has more powers.

Originally posted by h1a8
There's always a chance of getting hit by a stray bullet or car, being blown up, etc. This is common sense no?

Except no. What kind of world do you live in? Getting hit by a stray bullet, getting blown up?
At the slightest sign of danger, you yell Shazam, and you become impervious. You get hurt, Shazam. You're working on something dangerous, Shazam. It goes on, and on. Unless you get your head cut off by the many ninjas that live in our world, you're going to be fine.
Your chances of dying go down by far if you have the power of a God in our universe. Slim to none.

be pretty cool to walk into a large crowd and yell SHAZAM! and a giant bolt of lightning strikes down on you from the sky and then you become a super powered champion

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So, the risks of real life?

Except no. What kind of world do you live in? Getting hit by a stray bullet, getting blown up?
At the slightest sign of danger, you yell Shazam, and you become impervious. You get hurt, Shazam. You're working on something dangerous, Shazam. It goes on, and on. Unless you get your head cut off by the many ninjas that live in our world, you're going to be fine.
Your chances of dying go down by far if you have the power of a God in our universe. Slim to none.

There is a BIG difference between small chance and NO CHANCE. It is a fact of small chance and completely false of NO CHANCE.

The chance will increase if the government or terrorists, etc. knows about him. They will try to snipe him or blow him up (like a suicide bomber).

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
actually this is not true
captain marvel has superman level strength durability and everything else
and because he has the power of zeus he can amp his own abilities
i think it was in that war of the gods or something were it was said
but he can use the power of zeus to amp his abilities, writers seem to dont want to use his full potential. captain marvel has magic powers also which some editor said was on par with doctor strange from marvel

The power of Zues is the lightning, nothing more. Prove what you are talking about.

Superman holds back both consciously and subconsciously. That is why he seems peers to not only CM but beings who can't lift beyond 10,000 tons.
Superman is more durable. This is a fact.

Lastly, CM has the strength of Hercules (by writer's intent).

WW is stated in D.C. comics to be stronger than Hercules. Superman is stronger than her and thus stronger than CM. Superman has greater feats as well.

the lightning comes from the rock of eternity(the source)

dc hercules have had his strength cut in half to share with his roman half
cap has the full strength of hercules and is further amped by the power of zeus

Cap lifts far over 10,000 tons
not to mention hercules busted supermans face up

Marvel takes a majority over supes. That is just how it goes