Superman Vs Captain Marvel

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yeah. Only in comics will one find that punches that at best crumble a few surrounding buildings, will have effect on beings that can travel through Black Holes.

Supes and Cap should be able to punch each other forever without either being hurt. At least it used to be that way with Cap/Black Adam.

As well as Superboy and Mon El.

I guess writers decided that made for kind of boring fights, although in Caps case they gave an excuse that his powers weakened outside his universe. No real reason to believe that changed, even while Supermans powers waned in the 80's..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the lightning comes from the rock of eternity(the source)

dc hercules have had his strength cut in half to share with his roman half
cap has the full strength of hercules and is further amped by the power of zeus

Cap lifts far over 10,000 tons
not to mention hercules busted supermans face up

Prove that Hercules strength is split in half between Roman and Greek. If that is the case then CM is closer to SM in strength than I thought.

Prove that the power of Zues amps his other abilities. I thought I read that it gives him the power of lightning.

Originally posted by ankur29
knew someone was gonna say this, i disagree but DC don't really use CM enough so he could have feats to match SM
SM, is the poster boy he will always be the one beating DS etc no CM
However every appearance that CM has had with SM they are stated as physical equals much like thor and herc

so much wrong with that

CM is stronger than WW too

CM is very strong too able to lift easily above 100,000 tons

D.C. says that WW is stronger than Hercules. Plus she has feats that calculates her to exerting an Earth weight of force.

Don't on panel feats prove he's above her strength wise?

CM's Hercules is different than WW's Hercules from what I remember.

Regardless, CM's strength does not only come from Hercules. Atlas contributes to his strength too by default.

Yes, CM is above WW in strength.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
CM's Hercules is different than WW's Hercules from what I remember.

Regardless, CM's strength does not only come from Hercules. Atlas contributes to his strength too by default.

Yes, CM is above WW in strength.

Atlas only gives CM stamina as stated and intended by writers.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Don't on panel feats prove he's above her strength wise?

Originally posted by h1a8
[B]We go by writer's intentions. Otherwise we would be in the land of the speculation.
Writer's clearly portray CM to have the strength of Hercules (by his origins). Otherwise they wouldn't have used the name HERCULES nor HIS IMAGE.

Atlas only gives CM stamina as stated and intended by writers.

Exactly. We go by writers intentions. Which are the exact intentions exhaustively telling and showing us how equal Supes and Cap are supposed to be at every turn. Seeing as they are the ones stalemating for a couple of hours in arm wrestling contests, Marvel being the one able to hold Eclipso possessed Supes with a full nelson with the latter being unable to break out of it, and Supes gushing in a shocked manner how powerful CM is while they are fused while CM is pretty non-chalant about being fused with Supes.

All the while Superman can be seen casually ***** slapping Wonder Woman to another side of the room.

No, Atlas does not only provide Stamina. He has referred on panel before to his strength before as coming from both Hercules and Atlas. Herc probably provides most of it.

Not doubting you, but do you know the issue or story where Superman/Captain Marvel fuse?

I'd like to see that one. I know they switched power sets pre crisis, and Supes, and while Supes grumbled about Caps lack of super senses, Cap basically downplayed Supes strength by saying his missed his powers, but "your powers aren't exactly chopped liver."

Originally posted by h1a8
D.C. says that WW is stronger than Hercules. Plus she has feats that calculates her to exerting an Earth weight of force.

DC also made it clear that the Hercules that bestows Captain Marvel with a portion of his strength is different from the Hercules that appears in the Wonder Woman comics.

Marvel can also amp his strength by using the strength of Atlas or even the power of Zeus.

Captain Marvel will more than likely always be portrayed as an equal of Superman in strength.

1. Superman

2. Superman. I want to die one day, imagine living through everyone that you love die, and having no next of kin? I'd hate it, but that's me.

Originally posted by Stoic
1. Superman

2. Superman. I want to die one day, imagine living through everyone that you love die, and having no next of kin? I'd hate it, but that's me.

You could bestow powers to people.

You'd end up with a power downgrade, but presumably the immortality applies.

Wonder what happens if you keep giving powers to people..? Say, to everyone in town. Or everyone in a state... Eventually, will the power split be so great you'll actually be WEAKER then your human form?

like i said, hercules power is split in half with his roman counter part
the one in wonder woman comics is either the greek or roman half
while cap has the full power of hercules
i will look for scans hold on

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Exactly. We go by writers intentions. Which are the exact intentions exhaustively telling and showing us how equal Supes and Cap are supposed to be at every turn. Seeing as they are the ones stalemating for a couple of hours in arm wrestling contests, Marvel being the one able to hold Eclipso possessed Supes with a full nelson with the latter being unable to break out of it, and Supes gushing in a shocked manner how powerful CM is while they are fused while CM is pretty non-chalant about being fused with Supes.

All the while Superman can be seen casually ***** slapping Wonder Woman to another side of the room.

No, Atlas does not only provide Stamina. He has referred on panel before to his strength before as coming from both Hercules and Atlas. Herc probably provides most of it.

D.C. made it clear that Supes is holding back subconsciously as well as consciously. These mental blocks is preventing him from showing his full strength.

You must prove the Atlas strength thing because on panel it strictly states STAMINA.

And slapping someone around doesn't prove being stronger although Superman is stronger than WW.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
DC also made it clear that the Hercules that bestows Captain Marvel with a portion of his strength is different from the Hercules that appears in the Wonder Woman comics.

Marvel can also amp his strength by using the strength of Atlas or even the power of Zeus.

Captain Marvel will more than likely always be portrayed as an equal of Superman in strength.

Originally posted by Stoic
1. Superman

2. Superman. I want to die one day, imagine living through everyone that you love die, and having no next of kin? I'd hate it, but that's me.

Originally posted by h1a8
Lies. They did no such thing.
I read trials of Shazam. There is only one Hercules, otherwise why would writers used his exact name and image to mean strength?

No he can't. Atlas only grants stamina and Zues only the power of lightning.

Because Superman will always be shown to have mental blocks.
I agree they are peers when it comes to the mental blocks but when those blocks are off Superman is far superior.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
did you not read the comic where captain marvel went toe to toe with a bloodlusted superman and even restrained him and knocked him out?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
did you not read the comic where captain marvel went toe to toe with a bloodlusted superman and even restrained him and knocked him out?

If you mean when he was Eclipsed, Cap never knocked him out.

He restrained him, but in the end he's the one who got knocked out.

well it still proves that superman dont have mental blocks when fighting cap

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which comic are you referring to?