Universal Majestic Vs Thor

Started by Rage.Of.Olympus5 pages

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Nothing worth noting, though. It didn't really phase him.

And on top of that, CA has had some really impressive showings throughout his history, so...

He was on his knees. It phased him.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
1. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3815/captainatomarmageddon01pg164ob1.jpg
2. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/988/captainatomarmageddon01pg198lz.jpg
3. http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1312/captainatomarmageddon01pg202no.jpg

Not necessarily bad, but it's nothing to brag about.

True, but on average I'd say Captain Atom is usually a mid herald to low high herald character.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, since all we know is the shard affected his powers, it's hard to say with certainty that they didn't have an effect from the start...

But a piece of Void amped Spartan up to Majestics level, so it's a safe bet Cap was at least somewhat amped since getting it.

I guess that's fair. I just don't remember Captain Atom noting any increase in power or anything. He didn't even know of the shard until the Authority revealed it I believe.

Actually, since we have no feats for Majestic's amped form, I can actually see where you're from Rage.

My gut still tells me Majestic wins, but I get your p.o.v too.

Originally posted by Cubey
Actually, since we have no feats for Majestic's amped form, I can actually see where you're from Rage.

My gut still tells me Majestic wins, but I get your p.o.v too.

I like you know. You can be my cubey.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He was on his knees. It phased him.

Not necessarily bad, but it's nothing to brag about.

True, but on average I'd say Captain Atom is usually a mid herald to low high herald character.

I guess that's fair. I just don't remember Captain Atom noting any increase in power or anything. He didn't even know of the shard until the Authority revealed it I believe.

But the point is that it didn't really do much. A couple panels later, Majestic caught him.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
But the point is that it didn't really do much. A couple panels later, Majestic caught him.

Oh really? You were arguing that the blast didn't phase him. My stance was the opposite. It clearly did.

I'm not debating that the attack took him out -clearly it didn't- but it sure as hell phased him. The blast stunned him for a few moments.

Panels? I'm pretty sure Majestic caught up to him half way through the next issue.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
But the point is that it didn't really do much. A couple panels later, Majestic caught him.

Nothing was really hurting him, though.

Maul and Apollo were pretty viscously pounding on him, and he was having fully coherent thoughts and didn't seem to take any injury. Caps tough, but he was never that tough.

Hell, Hawk as Monarch kicked his ass at the end of Armageddon: The Alien Agenda.

It hardly caused him pain. He wasn't even fighting back. We see Majestic come in and swoop in on CA, then Majestic takes a point blank blast from CA and then he punches him down the concrete. Next page or so, we see CA trying to fly away, but Majestic comes right back. Just a brief fight, Nothing to note.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
It hardly caused him pain. He wasn't even fighting back. We see Majestic come in and swoop in on CA, then Majestic takes a point blank blast from CA and then he punches him down the concrete. Next page or so, we see CA trying to fly away, but Majestic comes right back. Just a brief fight, Nothing to note.

He wasn't fighting back precisely because it caused him pain. I don't see how anyone can read that scene and logical argue he wasn't phased. He was affected to the point he was stunned. It's not a horrible showing as Atom had a power up to an unknown degree at the time -Atom is powerful in his own right- so I don't see the problem.

You didn't need to describe their fight to me. I just posted the scans.

Next page? I believe that the scene where Majestic outraces Atom happens in the next issue.

He says it right here. A scan you didn't post.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/captainatomarmageddon2119ab.jpg

Nothing worth noting.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
He says it right here. A scan you didn't post.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Captain%20Atom/Cap%20scans/captainatomarmageddon2119ab.jpg

Nothing worth noting.

He says what right there? That's his not there to fight Adam? I described that scene a page ago:

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
IRCC, he out-flew Atom and caught his punch, telling him wanted to help him. A cool scene, but I'd have preferred a beat down.

I don't see how it changes anything.

You keep saying that like it proves something. I'm not debating that the scene had some large importance or value. I'm debating your claim that Majestic was not phased by Atom's attack. He clearly was.

It wasn't a very important scene. Atom is a top tier and Majestic took his blows like a champ.

When Atom was gearing up for an attack, Majestic easily stopped it.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
It wasn't a very important scene. Atom is a top tier and Majestic took his blows like a champ.

When Atom was gearing up for an attack, Majestic easily stopped it.

You don't seem to understand what I'm saying. I'm not debating the importance of the scene. I'm not even debating their entire fight. My main problem is your claim that he wasn't phased by Atom's attack. He was on his knees and stunned. He was hurt. Do you understand?

Yeah, but I don't agree. Do you understand?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I like you know. You can be my cubey.

Alright 💃

You also have to factor in, that version of Captain Atom had a power bump.

So, he had an amp and Majestic still took it like a champ? In the scene I posted, Majestic easily stopped a blast from Atom. Maybe this was a SERIOUS Majestic working here.

Yeah.

That was the ongoing theme in that series, his energies levels skyrocketed by the conflicting energies presented by the Voids shard.

Originally posted by "Id"
You also have to factor in, that version of Captain Atom had a power bump.

Already mentioned that.

I'll give Maj his due at tossing Atom around and stopping his attacks, but I don't think he could've knocked him out. Not the way Cap kept tanking attacks from everyone.

The power bump also may explain why Captain Atom thought Majestic was weaker then Superman, because he certainly didn't look weaker against Eradicator.

(To be honest, I'm tempted to disregard the series altogether though.. The Authority scaring people, I can see. But Majestic? The people loved him! They cheered when he returned in his solo series. I also thought Majestics characterization was off.. I mean, tossing Captain Atom at the Washington Monument just to get his attention isn't really something I can see him doing. He's not the Eradicator..)

I remember noting that this series wasn't particularly kind when it came to Majestic once I was done reading it.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Yeah, but I don't agree. Do you understand?

Of course I understand. I've pointed out your stance more than once. I just think it's illogical.

Originally posted by "Id"
Yeah.

That was the ongoing theme in that series, his energies levels skyrocketed by the conflicting energies presented by the Voids shard.

Issue number?

I don't want to flip through the entire series for simply one scene.

Originally posted by cdtm
Already mentioned that.

I'll give Maj his due at tossing Atom around and stopping his attacks, but I don't think he could've knocked him out. Not the way Cap kept tanking attacks from everyone.

The power bump also may explain why Captain Atom thought Majestic was weaker then Superman, because he certainly didn't look weaker against Eradicator.

(To be honest, I'm tempted to disregard the series altogether though.. The Authority scaring people, I can see. But Majestic? The people loved him! They cheered when he returned in his solo series. I also thought Majestics characterization was off.. I mean, tossing Captain Atom at the Washington Monument just to get his attention isn't really something I can see him doing. He's not the Eradicator..)

Yeah, Maj punked Eradicator. Even insulting DC's heroes to Superman. 😱