Originally posted by Parmaniac
BS You guys never gave us germans a chance ahah
BS you say? Many politicians and highly influential people in America supported Hitler's rise to power, the rearming of Germany and directly did business with the Nazi regime.
It wasn't until you ****s had to roll over the Polocks, which made the Brits shit their knickers and then to top it off, you bamboozled the clown-like Japanese into joining your conquest and then foolishly attacked America by proxy.
Really, you reached for the stars and were to arrogant to notice you were balancing on a rotted-out stool. Fail's solely on the Germans.
Originally posted by Robtard
BS you say? Many politicians and highly influential people in America supported Hitler's rise to power, the rearming of Germany and directly did business with the Nazi regime.It wasn't until you ****s had to roll over the Polocks, which made the Brits shit their knickers and then to top it off, you bamboozled the clown-like Japanese into joining your conquest and then foolishly attacked America by proxy.
Really, you reached for the stars and were to arrogant to notice you were balancing on a rotted-out stool. Fail's solely on the Germans.
Henry Ford was the greatest man to ever live. *salutes*
Originally posted by Parmaniac
A serious reply to a joke post...
I actually laughed out loud.
You can't really just declare that all drugs are going to be generic now. If the maker doesn't get exclusive use for a while then there's much less motive to sink tremendous amounts of money into development. Kill patents and corporations will keep their trade secrets in a different way, probably causing considerable inconvenience or expense.
I believe in the principle of following evidence rather than guesswork, and nothing is more obvious than the fact that single payer consistently creates better results than hybrid or purely private systems.
I agree with mostly what you've stated, Zeal.
Really big on competition, myself. We need interstate insurance, man, BIG time.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Liberals: Failing basic economics since always.
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That's only partially true, though. I'd say my boy, King Kandy, knows economics better than I do.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
And how many of those systems function in countries of 300 million people? Enjoy your waiting list as you funnel billions into a system that doesn't address the actual problems of health care in America.
Originally posted by King Kandy
That's the dumbest argument i've heard in my life. Obviously none, because the US is a high population country. Implying the same system won't work in high population, however, is speculation that ignores the evidence.
Listen, sweetcheeks, the fact is that the system you're advocating doesn't address the underlying issue of health care, which is the shortage of doctors in America and the monopolies of the insurance companies. What do you think is going to happen when suddenly everyone can go to the doctor free of charge? A sudden increase in demand that will overtake supply, causing shortages. Health care, like any other good, is not infinite, no matter what your mentally deficient liberal arts professors have told you. Increasing the desire for an already high-demand product while leaving the supply the same is going to cause a cluster****.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Listen, sweetcheeks, the fact is that the system you're advocating doesn't address the underlying issue of health care, which is the shortage of doctors in America
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
and the monopolies of the insurance companies.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
What do you think is going to happen when suddenly everyone can go to the doctor free of charge?
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
A sudden increase in demand that will overtake supply, causing shortages.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Health care, like any other good, is not infinite, no matter what your mentally deficient liberal arts professors have told you. Increasing the desire for an already high-demand product while leaving the supply the same is going to cause a cluster****.
Originally posted by King Kandy
No, fortunately that's fixed by the OTHER point I suggested, free college.
Actually it does; under single payer, they don't exist and therefore can't have a monopoly.
Originally posted by Zeal
shortage of doctors
No. The supply could EASILY be higher than it is right now. Drug companies deliberately under produce in the US in order to keep the prices high. In other countries, drugs are dirt cheap.
No, because the supply will just be expanded to it's true potential once profit motives are reduced.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Headdesk. This is not a viable solution for a number of reasons, which I won't get into here because it's a topic for another thread.[quote=Zeal]shortage of doctors
It's not about drugs, it's about doctors, you braindead chimpanzee. People are going to want to see doctors more frequently if they don't have to pay out-of-pocket costs, thus increasing the demand. Without an increase in supply, you're looking at rationed health care and long waiting lists.
This is what liberals actually believe. You are delusional. [/QUOTE]
You are delusional. You are the one positing things that have not shown to be true in systems where they are actually applied. You are all theory and no reality.
There will not be a shortage of doctors. The big reason for this is that medical schools currently slash admittance rates to the point where the supply is less than current demand (the difference is met by training doctors from out-of-US). All that needs to happen is for them to stop doing this.
Originally posted by King Kandy
No, fortunately that's fixed by the OTHER point I suggested, free college.
That's not necessarily true, if other incentives are missing, say if a doctor can't make that much money anymore, many of the people best suited for being doctors (probably mostly smart people) will go into other areas where they can earn more, or take their education and go to a country where they can earn more.
Not that I'm opposed to free education necessarily (probably a hybrid system though), but you have to consider the bigger picture.