Current Hulk vs Silver Age Mangog

Started by Stoic8 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was a small portion of the odinforce and he used his own hammer due to leob's terrible writing because of their surroundings to get the win to be crushed the very next issue. Oh and by the way Rulk has owned the Hulk easily and crushed him not the case against Thor.

When did Hulk stop him without much effort ? Thor has beaten Juggs as well and even has the power to separate him from his enchantment.

Sentry at his best absolutely dominates any Hulk. He can come back at will and reality matter warp hulk into a harmless gamma baby. I mean it isn't even up for discussion with the sentry at his best.

Hulk's never ever surpassed Thor's best showings of power. At his best we have seen him at elite top tier and possibly above that was wb Hulk. Mangog has always been above elite top tier.

Mangog has absolutely raped Thor in the past. has Hulk ever ? Nope. He pounds his chest and is unable to ever beat on Thor because he's no Mangog.

Did you just say that the Hulk currently would not be able to defeat Thor? Did you also state that The Hulk has never tasted the sting of Mjolnir's other exotic tricks? C'mon Quan stop it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you just say that the Hulk currently would not be able to defeat Thor?

He wouldn't. Not if Thor puts away his "honor" etc. and wants the win.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you also state that The Hulk has never tasted the sting of Mjolnir's other exotic tricks? C'mon Quan stop it.

That's completely true. The most exotic trick Thor has used on Hulk that I can think off has been lightning.

Would you care to compare the Hulk's movement speed to Mangog's?

It's hard to hit a moving target with an anti-force projection beam.

Beam; as in singular light emission point. He could always hit the Hulk with lightening strikes, because so many arcs would connect. Which may be one of the reasons that Thor has rarely deployed such a tactic, if ever.

The one factor that keeps Mangog from a solid victory over a guy like the Hulk should be as air clear as day. The Hulk does not stay at the same level, he breaks the mold, Mangog's bullying at the start, would eventually be matched by a guy that can physically move a planet, and get to that level in moments, even surpassing it.

Actually when did Mangog ever show such strength? On my score card it's Mangog Silver, Golden, Platinum... whatever that has to make up yardage, not the Green Skaar.

Originally posted by Stoic
a guy that can physically move a planet

I'm going to assume we're talking about Superboy Prime and not the guy who has never displayed such strength.

Originally posted by Stoic
Would you care to compare the Hulk's movement speed to Mangog's?

It's hard to hit a moving target with an anti-force projection beam.

Beam; as in singular light emission point. He could always hit the Hulk with lightening strikes, because so many arcs would connect. Which may be one of the reasons that Thor has rarely deployed such a tactic, if ever.

The one factor that keeps Mangog from a solid victory over a guy like the Hulk should be as air clear as day. The Hulk does not stay at the same level, he breaks the mold, Mangog's bullying at the start, would eventually be matched by a guy that can physically move a planet, and get to that level in moments, even surpassing it.

Actually when did Mangog ever show such strength? On my score card it's Mangog Silver, Golden, Platinum... whatever that has to make up yardage, not the Green Skaar.

Hahaha. Movement speed? The Hulk? Do you want to count how many times he actually dodges an attack and how many times he doesn't, instead tanking it in battles?

Movement speed would mean shit by the way when Thor can do something like this:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MangogvsThor18.jpg

So many arcs would connect? He summons down one main bolt and it hits the Hulk. I've never seen Thor's lightning miss him. Now that I think about it, I don't think Hulk has ever dodged an attack from Thor. Maybe a hammer throw once but that's all I'm coming up with right now. Other than that, the closest scene might be when he catches Norvell's hammer as he doesn't want to get struck by it.

GTFO. Mangog would beat the Hulk's shit in. And something fierce. IRCC, Thor was being tossed around by Mangog's f*cking tail. Back then, Thor was at least Hulk's equal in physical strength despite his dynamic factor. Mangog is simply in another league. In terms of threat, his Silver Age incarnation was probably the worst thing next to the coming of Galactus.

Or maybe Mangog just turns the Hulk into a pig.

And screw planet moving strength. When planets were being consumed and disappearing across the Universe, the two beings Thor thought would be capable of being responsible for it were Galactus and Mangog.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
I'm going to assume we're talking about Superboy Prime and not the guy who has never displayed such strength.

Actually would you say that it was harder to contain a planet seconds away from exploding, and imploding upon itself, or simply moving a planet? The Hulk could have exceeded the power that it took to achieve that stunt. How much more powerful is Mangog than that? That's, if he can go that far to begin with.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you just say that the Hulk currently would not be able to defeat Thor? Did you also state that The Hulk has never tasted the sting of Mjolnir's other exotic tricks? C'mon Quan stop it.
I think he might manage a very close win but not anything close to Mangog just stomping a hole in him.

Hulk feels the sting of his hammer and was temp ko'd with a lightning blast before. if he went anti matter force blast Hulk would get owned. Thor's far too powerful for the Hulk if he releases his best stuff hence the writers don't ever having him do so.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha. Movement speed? The Hulk? Do you want to count how many times he actually dodges an attack and how many times he doesn't, instead tanking it in battles?

Movement speed would mean shit by the way when Thor can do something like this:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/MangogvsThor18.jpg

So many arcs would connect? He summons down one main bolt and it hits the Hulk. I've never seen Thor's lightning miss him. Now that I think about it, I don't think Hulk has ever dodged an attack from Thor. Maybe a hammer throw once but that's all I'm coming up with right now. Other than that, the closest scene might be when he catches Norvell's hammer as he doesn't want to get struck by it.

GTFO. Mangog would beat the Hulk's shit in. And something fierce. IRCC, Thor was being tossed around by Mangog's f*cking tail. Back then, Thor was at least Hulk's equal in physical strength despite his dynamic factor. Mangog is simply in another league. In terms of threat, his Silver Age incarnation was probably the worst thing next to the coming of Galactus.

Or maybe Mangog just turns the Hulk into a pig.

And screw planet moving strength. When planets were being consumed and disappearing across the Universe, the two beings Thor thought would be capable of being responsible for it were Galactus and Mangog.

That was then, we are talking about a different Hulk now Rage. I also noticed the lumbering lethargic movements that made up for Mangog's fighting style. IRCC.

When did Mangog turn someone into a pig?

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually would you say that it was harder to contain a planet seconds away from exploding, and imploding upon itself, or simply moving a planet? The Hulk could have exceeded the power that it took to achieve that stunt. How much more powerful is Mangog than that? That's, if he can go that far to begin with.

A planet can't explode and implode at the same time. Moving tectonic plates is nowhere as impressive as moving Rann.

Originally posted by Stoic
That was then, we are talking about a different Hulk now Rage. I also noticed the lumbering lethargic movements that made up for Mangog's fighting style. IRCC.

When did Mangog turn someone into a pig?

Hulk's stock has gone up some since WWH. Cool. He'd still get his shit pushed in by Mangog.

So? Hulk will try to tank and not dodge Mangog's attacks. On average at least.

When he transformed himself into Odin and pretended to be him. He was transmuting a bunch of Asgardians. Turned either Volstagg or Balder into a pig.

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
A planet can't explode and implode at the same time. Moving tectonic plates is nowhere as impressive as moving Rann.

Actually a planet can do both simultaneously.

I beg to differ, the Hulk wasn't only bearing the weight of a planet, he was wrestling against the pressures that would have blown the planet to pieces. Which physically is greater than the mass of the object itself. Ask your science teacher, you'll see.

Originally posted by Stoic
Did you just say that the Hulk currently would not be able to defeat Thor? Did you also state that The Hulk has never tasted the sting of Mjolnir's other exotic tricks? C'mon Quan stop it.
My 2-cents. Current Hulk may be physically stronger then THOR, but no version of the Hulk will EVER be more powerful then Mjolnir. Period.

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually a planet can do both simultaneously.

Does a star go supernova and collapse into a black hole simultaneously? 🙄

Originally posted by Stoic
I beg to differ, the Hulk wasn't only bearing the weight of a planet, he was wrestling against the pressures that would have blown the planet to pieces. Which physically is greater than the mass of the object itself.

You mean the pressures that would collapse the planet onto itself...

Oh wait. 😆

No, he was not Hercules with the Earth in his shoulders.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hulk's stock has gone up some since WWH. Cool. He'd still get his shit pushed in by Mangog.

So? Hulk will try to tank and not dodge Mangog's attacks. On average at least.

When he transformed himself into Odin and pretended to be him. He was transmuting a bunch of Asgardians. Turned either Volstagg or Balder into a pig.

Transmogrifying the Hulk is a win in my book, but the strength subject, has to be proven, I've never seen Mangog, or Thor exceed that level. Have you?

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Does a star go supernova and collapse into a black hole simultaneously? 🙄

You mean the pressures that would collapse the planet onto itself...

Oh wait. 😆

No, he was not Hercules with the Earth in his shoulders.

Uhm yea a star actually does just that.

Mangog

Originally posted by Warlord
Mangog

Can the Hulk be transmogrified? His physiology is different others.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he might manage a very close win but not anything close to Mangog just stomping a hole in him.

Hulk feels the sting of his hammer and was temp ko'd with a lightning blast before. if he went anti matter force blast Hulk would get owned. Thor's far too powerful for the Hulk if he releases his best stuff hence the writers don't ever having him do so.

An anti force blast could send the Hulk hurtling that's for sure, but to say that he gets owned is speculative at best. We have already seen him tank, an energy blast that tore billions of tons off the moon.

Originally posted by Stoic
Transmogrifying the Hulk is a win in my book, but the strength subject, has to be proven, I've never seen Mangog, or Thor exceed that level. Have you?

Exceed what level of strength?

I'd place Mangog above in strength any Hulk I've ever seen.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Exceed what level of strength?

I'd place Mangog above in strength any Hulk I've ever seen.

Why?