I got a 1. I was like "Surf pornography online? Yes. Everything else? No."
Seriously, I'm a romantically/sexually active 20-something male, with liberal sensibilities, yet I scored a 1. I feel like 90% of that list was about letting sex become a destructive force in your life. And despite enjoying it as much as the next guy, it really isn't hard to keep it in check to the point that it doesn't take over other aspects of my life.
People are messed up.
Originally posted by Digi
I got a 1. I was like "Surf pornography online? Yes. Everything else? No."Seriously, I'm a romantically/sexually active 20-something male, with liberal sensibilities, yet I scored a 1. I feel like 90% of that list was about letting sex become a destructive force in your life. And despite enjoying it as much as the next guy, it really isn't hard to keep it in check to the point that it doesn't take over other aspects of my life.
People are messed up.
It is difficult to imagine that you scored a 1 because some of those questions are worded in a way to make you think a no is correct but a yes is actually correct for the majority of the population.
For instance, you have NEVER tried to quit a particular sexual behavior before? It is extremely likely that you have because that is so broad that pretty much anyone would count in that area.
Another one was the question about whether or not you hide SOME of your sexual behavior from others. Unless you want to become a registered sex offender, you do hide some of your behaviors from others.
The "sexual with minors" question would be almost universally answered with a "yes" because that's when we all discover our sexuality. It is a trick question. Sure, there may be some asexual children out there, but...pretty much everyone would have to answer yes because it is extremely likely that they sexually interacted with their peers at one point...while being a minor.
And you've never ever had unprotected lovins? Ever? Hard to believe. But most likely, you have. That would be risky, but there's another yes.
So I guess a minimum of 4 to 5 yeses for anyone, if they are being honest.
Originally posted by dadudemon
It is difficult to imagine that you scored a 1 because some of those questions are worded in a way to make you think a no is correct but a yes is actually correct for the majority of the population.For instance, you have NEVER tried to quit a particular sexual behavior before? It is extremely likely that you have because that is so broad that pretty much anyone would count in that area.
Another one was the question about whether or not you hide SOME of your sexual behavior from others. Unless you want to become a registered sex offender, you do hide some of your behaviors from others.
The "sexual with minors" question would be almost universally answered with a "yes" because that's when we all discover our sexuality. It is a trick question. Sure, there may be some asexual children out there, but...pretty much everyone would have to answer yes because it is extremely likely that they sexually interacted with their peers at one point...while being a minor.
And you've never ever had unprotected lovins? Ever? Hard to believe. But most likely, you have. That would be risky, but there's another yes.
So I guess a minimum of 4 to 5 yeses for anyone, if they are being honest.
Some of those are just a difference in interpretation. I wouldn't hide the fact that I masturbate or watch porn, but is the very act of performing those alone in my apartment "hiding" it? Do I "hide" showering too? Eating breakfast?
As for quitting, does it mean like quitting it as a habit? Again, if you take 19-year-old Christian Digi, the answer's yes. If you take current Digi, it's no. Or is it quitting a specific instance for some reason (mom calls)?
Unprotected lovins? Not deliberately (cheap condoms are cheap).
Same with the minors thing. Are we to be absolutist about it, or take it as the illegal kind? Obviously we all had hormones as teens. I don't think that should count toward adult sexual addiction though.
Obviously I'm higher than a 1 if I take your view. And because it's ambiguous, there's not a right or wrong answer.
Originally posted by Digi
Some of those are just a difference in interpretation. I wouldn't hide the fact that I masturbate or watch porn, but is the very act of performing those alone in my apartment "hiding" it? Do I "hide" showering too? Eating breakfast?
You wouldn't hide eating breakfast. Nor would you hide taking a shower. You do hide teh bates, though. By hide, I mean...not revealing the fact.
Originally posted by Digi
As for quitting, does it mean like quitting it as a habit? Again, if you take 19-year-old Christian Digi, the answer's yes. If you take current Digi, it's no. Or is it quitting a specific instance for some reason (mom calls)?
You tell me. Question says anything. You could have stopped a particular habit like smelling your fingers afterwards...or using your left instead of your right. The question is so vague that there is always something you probably quit.
Originally posted by Digi
Unprotected lovins? Not deliberately (cheap condoms are cheap).
Heh.
Originally posted by Digi
Same with the minors thing. Are we to be absolutist about it, or take it as the illegal kind? Obviously we all had hormones as teens. I don't think that should count toward adult sexual addiction though.
The question does not specify. If you are to be fully honest, you must say yes. You'd think the question would be more specific but it doesn't when it should or think it should.
Originally posted by Digi
Obviously I'm higher than a 1 if I take your view. And because it's ambiguous, there's not a right or wrong answer.
Well, if you were to answer it with some severe absolute statements, yeah, you'd be higher than a 1. That's why the test cannot possibly rate anyone a 1 if you are to be absolutely honest.
Originally posted by dadudemon
You wouldn't hide eating breakfast. Nor would you hide taking a shower. You do hide teh bates, though. By hide, I mean...not revealing the fact.You tell me. Question says anything. You could have stopped a particular habit like smelling your fingers afterwards...or using your left instead of your right. The question is so vague that there is always something you probably quit.
Heh.
The question does not specify. If you are to be fully honest, you must say yes. You'd think the question would be more specific but it doesn't when it should or think it should.
Well, if you were to answer it with some severe absolute statements, yeah, you'd be higher than a 1. That's why the test cannot possibly rate anyone a 1 if you are to be absolutely honest.
Belated, but I still disagree. Like, if "hiding" masturbating is doing it alone, everyone on the planet is a "yes." But if asked if I masturbate, I'll answer "yes" to pretty much anyone. My boss, friends, family. It's normal and healthy. I wouldn't volunteer the information, but it's still no different than not volunteering that I shower naked. I don't "hide" it in that sense, and I think that's really the only reasonable interpretation. An interpretation that HAS to be yes for everyone is just silly. It tells us nothing and makes the question moot.
And no, honestly, I've never tried to quit a sexual behavior as an adult. Again, if we're counting the first pang of guilt as a teen after the first time you wank, then the question is retarded and meaningless in a sociological context.
Same with the minors thing. If it "has" to be a yes, why the hell would it be on there? I've never lusted after minors as an adult, so I think I can reasonably say I don't display sex addict tendencies in that area. I'm pretty sure an interpretation that includes us as 15-year-olds is, well, wrong. A 45-year-old who takes the test and had a crush on a girl when he was 14...is that guy displaying sex addict tendencies? Come on.
Vague questions with either stupid tautological "yes" answers, or many more nuanced "no" answers. I stand by my score.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I got a 10. Damn, most addicts are above 6? That's crazy low... :/What did you score, rudester?
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Im not telling. Im off sex till I meet someone special.
I dont want to go through what I went through again. Sex should be special.. im going to lay low till I meet someone that I feel a spark with...
Originally posted by Digi
Like, if "hiding" masturbating is doing it alone, everyone on the planet is a "yes."
Yeaaah...that's just plain wrong.
Tons of people masturbate in front of other people. Some do it to the point of getting thrown into jail.
Originally posted by Digi
An interpretation that HAS to be yes for everyone is just silly. It tells us nothing and makes the question moot.
Either that or it is a baseline question to see how much of a liar the test taker is being.
Originally posted by Digi
And no, honestly, I've never tried to quit a sexual behavior as an adult. Again, if we're counting the first pang of guilt as a teen after the first time you wank, then the question is retarded and meaningless in a sociological context.
Again, it is not meaningless in that interpretation. You're adding context to the question that is not there. No where does it say, "hey, if you think this question should be twisted in a way that makes you feel more comfortable or appear more favorable to what you think others would like, answer it that way."
Originally posted by Digi
Same with the minors thing. If it "has" to be a yes, why the hell would it be on there?
Because the question could easily be (to make it your interpretation), "Have you ever had illegal or taboo relations with a minor?" Similarly with the bates question.
Originally posted by Digi
I've never lusted after minors as an adult,
That's an interpretation that you're adding but is not present in the questionnaire.
Originally posted by Digi
so I think I can reasonably say I don't display sex addict tendencies in that area. I'm pretty sure an interpretation that includes us as 15-year-olds is, well, wrong. A 45-year-old who takes the test and had a crush on a girl when he was 14...is that guy displaying sex addict tendencies? Come on.
If you answered the questions honestly and directly, you'd still end up in the normal range. 😐 So I don't see your rebuttal as being of substance or even convincing.
Originally posted by Digi
Vague questions with either stupid tautological "yes" answers, or many more nuanced "no" answers.
There is nothing tautological about anything we have discussed. And the "nuances" are your own addition. You've take some liberties in sliding around how the questions could be answered just to eke out a "no."
Originally posted by Digi
I stand by my score.
I don't: if you were going to answer the questions directly, it'd probably be a 3 or 4.
Edit - And your parents don't have a problem with your sexual behavior?
And you aren't reoccupied with sexual thoughts (that's so ambiguous as to be meaningless...statistically, men are reoccupied with sexual thoughts...absurdly so. You would definitely fall into that category based off of some of the things you post.)
Can you honestly say that your sexuality has created no problems, ever, for you and your family? I mean...not even a single problem? If you're a human and have parents, it has created a problem at one time or another.
Has anyone been emotionally hurt because of your sexual behavior? Did you ask for a BJ and get rejected by someone you didn't know was feminist? 😐 That's just one of thousand of examples I can think of that could cause emotional hurt.
And you've never used the internet for romantic purposes? That's..pretty much a yes for any person (that's not poor poor) born after 1980.
Basically, I think you're quite the example of social desirability bias. You did not answer the questions correctly if you got a 1...and are sexually normal.
Double edit - Took the test again and got a 3. I answered the questions as seriously and directly as possible. Since I grew up in a conservative background and did not "rebel and act out" after leaving the nest, that's probably about as low as it can get. A real professional would ask other questions and they would be more direct, with context.
Here's the bottom line. If you go absolute, several questions say absolutely nothing about disposition toward sexual addiction. Nothing at all. That 45-year-old that you think should say yes to the minors question...what in **** does that tell us that's useful about that guy? Nothing. That he had a crush when he was 16? Is that a medically or sociologically relevant point? Why should we include that?
They should disambiguate. But I think your interpretations are needlessly literal, to the point that the test becomes meaningless. More than anything, I think we're just talking about a deeply flawed test. Because if we start breaking down the questions linguistically, we'd be forced to take some of your interpretations. But that's the whole point.